sonofbert2 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Hutchinson has been back darn sarf since January hasn’t he? Whatever happened was terminal for his time here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy66 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: You of all people should know that you'll get nowhere on here wi' facts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Essix Blue said: Because if we’re guilty, then the EFL didn’t give us the go ahead and we’ve in effect been found out as liars trying to dodge the punishment. If it was as clear cut as that then there wouldn’t be such a long delay or even really any defence. An aggravated breach is where a club is told clearly they cannot do something and they go and do it I think Birmingham avoided an aggravated breach when they signed that defender because they flagged it in correspondence with the EFL. But docked points for the offence Edited July 13, 2020 by Bluesteel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Jim said: I don’t see how a manager with 5 clubs in 6 years can ever do a long term job for us 31 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Carvalhal certainly did a long-term job on us. As a club, we’re still recovering from his time in charge here and we sacked the useless idiot two and a half years ago. Edited July 13, 2020 by Westfield Owl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbelly Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Maybe the delay is to due with Derby’s hearing. If they’re going to be another week or so with that then surely they won’t be able to issue any punishment this season - which would make it unfair if our punishment was then enforced and we were relegated off the back of it. By holding back on releasing the verdicts it allows them to punish (or not) both clubs in the same season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick70 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 All these pics Di Marco putting on piece of cake relating to how easy it was?? Let’s hope so ? Might be that efl have appealed? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr. benway Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The real question that hasn’t been addressed in this thread is how many cherries does DeMarco have stockpiled? Insane fruit consumption. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said: Carvalhal certainly did a long-term job on us. As a club, we’re still recovering from his time in charge here and we sacked the useless idiot two and a half years ago. I dont think you can lay all the blame at his door, though I strongly suspect he was one of quite a few who saw a wealthy man who could be taken for a ride. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Mick70 said: All these pics Di Marco putting on piece of cake relating to how easy it was?? Let’s hope so ? Might be that efl have appealed? It might be like master chef, and the independent panel are eating and scoring Di Marco various servings. Could take a while. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, Manwë said: A vulture normally used to the alps (think Switzerland, home of CAS) has been spotted just outside Sheffield. Make of that what you will. Milvus Milvus? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gizowl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Yellowbelly said: Maybe the delay is to due with Derby’s hearing. If they’re going to be another week or so with that then surely they won’t be able to issue any punishment this season - which would make it unfair if our punishment was then enforced and we were relegated off the back of it. By holding back on releasing the verdicts it allows them to punish (or not) both clubs in the same season. This could possibly be the case, delaying the outcome till the sheep hearing is over. I know the charges are different and ours was more complex but they have got to get the balance right if punishment is to be given. Also it gives the independent panel another chance to look how the EFL have been handling matters and cooperating with the said clubs and ways they could do better in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinowl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: So you'd have 'managed'/played Jay Bothroyd? Well someone somewhere got the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Come on, be fair. They've had a lot longer in the managerial game than Monk? Good response though and one I should've expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, steelowl said: I never managed a sport team so it may be different but I've successfully managed other teams and if someone is constantly causing unrest or dissent if after a failure to agree a way forward I would recommend they are shown the door What is telling to me without ITK of what went off is that these people were highlighted by Jos I wonder if Monk and him had a discussion You failed with me on WTID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, vulva said: This is how Dennis Nilson started. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, mkowl said: You failed with me on WTID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Essix Blue said: Because if we’re guilty, then the EFL didn’t give us the go ahead and we’ve in effect been found out as liars trying to dodge the punishment. Also if that was the case, anyone who tried to defend themselves with their interpretation of rules or correspondence in any grey area case whether in football or otherwise (rather than simply pleading guilty out of fear) would be deemed necessary to be given some kind of top up sentence but that’s not how the system is supposed to work. If we do get an aggravated breach style punishment I think we will have had to have gone against something explicit. All depends on what these emails say I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, steelowl said: I never managed a sport team so it may be different but I've successfully managed other teams and if someone is constantly causing unrest or dissent if after a failure to agree a way forward I would recommend they are shown the door What is telling to me without ITK of what went off is that these people were highlighted by Jos I wonder if Monk and him had a discussion Me too, did you ever seriously consider the option/choice that your style may have been part of the problem. My starting point was asking if there was anything I could do to help any given situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANDY Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 What gets me is people are saying that Chansiri putting the club into administration makes no business sense at all. hang on. he’s got previous for doing things that make no business sense. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, ANDY said: What gets me is people are saying that Chansiri putting the club into administration makes no business sense at all. hang on. he’s got previous for doing things that make no business sense. Owning football clubs makes no business sense at all, period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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