dorian gray Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Dizzys Dad said: Because of the delay, any small deduction ( which doesn’t relegate us, would make it appear we’d got off). My guess now, is that we should be cleared, but it is possible the EFL may try to save face, and give us a points deduction (6), with our agreement, which will be applied next season. Just to bring an end to this complete farce. not sure we'd accept that. for me it's guilty or not as charged. IF it's guilty we're going to a court of law (where you will be the accused) for damages as we believe that we have written consent from a person in authority working for your body at the time, a person appointed by you, not us, and thus your responsibility. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I'm sure I've read somewhere that Wigan's point deduction will only apply this season if it relegates them. If not it carries over to next season. Does anyone know if the same rules applies to clubs breaking P&S rather than going into administration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, TaxiMark said: Times are desperado pal The delay is ridiculous there are several cases that could affect the final standings of this season, I cannot see how they are going to sort it out close season clubs need to know budget recruitment wise by the end of the season i can see this being a flurry of appeals and law suits a total mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Morepork said: We need a volunteer to abduct a Blackburn fan and get their view, maybe they are happy with their lot these days. I dont think they've got any choice in the matter .. Since they sold their 25 goal a season striker things seem to have gone belly up .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Nut said: I'm sure I've read somewhere that Wigan's point deduction will only apply this season if it relegates them. If not it carries over to next season. Does anyone know if the same rules applies to clubs breaking P&S rather than going into administration? If they are out of the relegation places by the last game of the season they get a -12 deduction. If they are relegated without the deduction then that applies to League 1 next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Nut said: I'm sure I've read somewhere that Wigan's point deduction will only apply this season if it relegates them. If not it carries over to next season. Does anyone know if the same rules applies to clubs breaking P&S rather than going into administration? Their deduction will kick in depending on where they finish in the league. If they're in the bottom 3, the deduction is next season. If they outside the bottom 3, it'll be this season. Total points will decide if they go up or down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dizzys Dad said: Because of the delay, any small deduction ( which doesn’t relegate us, would make it appear we’d got off). My guess now, is that we should be cleared, but it is possible the EFL may try to save face, and give us a points deduction (6), with our agreement, which will be applied next season. Just to bring an end to this complete farce. Dont think you've quite grasped that the EFL aren't in charge of this mate. Its an independent tribunal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Dizzys Dad said: Because of the delay, any small deduction ( which doesn’t relegate us, would make it appear we’d got off). My guess now, is that we should be cleared, but it is possible the EFL may try to save face, and give us a points deduction (6), with our agreement, which will be applied next season. Just to bring an end to this complete farce. It's a panel that decide our fate, not the EFL. We should be cleared if we've done nothing wrong, and we should be found guilty if we have broken rules. Agreements, backroom deals, "saving face" etc is absolutely wrong (imagine if the EFL were in talks with other clubs, in private, to our detriment). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwë Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, A12owl said: The Man City decision has a specific time of 9.30 am today. Why can't EFL give a specific date and time. Oh yes, they are inefficient. It's the CAS doing the City case. It's not the EFL ruling on the Wednesday case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Wigan are appealing their 12 point deduction. Busy week and a bit coming up for the EFL/panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, steelowl said: The delay is ridiculous there are several cases that could affect the final standings of this season, I cannot see how they are going to sort it out close season clubs need to know budget recruitment wise by the end of the season i can see this being a flurry of appeals and law suits a total mess that's why it needs announcing now, with a full explanation as to why it's taken so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, MarkS43Owl said: If they are out of the relegation places by the last game of the season they get a -12 deduction. If they are relegated without the deduction then that applies to League 1 next season. Thanks. Do the same rules apply to P&S though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 IF we are found guilty I'll be amazed if its not a 12-15 deduction. Absolutely amazed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Ever get the sense that football is a bit flipped in this country? Not sure what it says where we are one of quite few who face possible points deductions and so on. Throw in the fact that other teams may cry foul if we do get off or the deduction isn't as severe as they were hoping. Likewise, do we then kick off if things dont go our way? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nut said: Thanks. Do the same rules apply to P&S though? I have no idea mate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 City win their appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 City got off then! No surprise. Bad news for United. Today is now a good day to release football news that you want to go under the radar..... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Man Citys ban in Europe has been lifted, so they are in the Champions League next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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soldierboyblue Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Grandad said: Not arguing against that. But Milan ran out of the money he allocated to the investment and we saw loans secured on the stadium from 3rd parties. One of whom was Pini Zahavi - who is closely linked with Doyen sports Milan never had any money that he was willing to put in his plan was to bankroll the club after loaning against it. 39 minutes ago, TaxiMark said: I seriously do not care about Man City can di marco predict our fate instead because after tomorrow night we have 2 games left.... unbelievable! He's not going to predict our fate after representing us is he? That would land him in the smelly brown stuff and he could kiss his career good bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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