kevtheowl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Hughdowd said: Any more info ????.....genuine ITK Info ???....remember you saying we would not get a points deduction Still don’t think we will mate, if we do it won’t be enough to do us any harm !! UTO 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: So you wouldn't like a club where the owner steps back and allows the manager to run the club (Mowbray)?.... And to run within the EFL FFP & P&S guidelines in which Blackburn are now aspiring to .. They have just completed phase 2 of 3 upgrading/refurbishment of the corporate facilities (which aren't inclusive of the EFL sanctions regarding expenditures) Overheard all this in the queue at the pork pie shop the other week I could certainly do with less drama so that would definitely be a plus.....are you suggesting we should aspire to be the "Blackburn" of South Yorks??? I know it's much easier to comply with the EFL rules if you are broke or stop investing on the playing side. Who knows, maybe they do have a plan in place and have learnt their lessons. We need a volunteer to abduct a Blackburn fan and get their view, maybe they are happy with their lot these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: Rumours around Manchester are they walk away scot-free, egg on the face of UEFA. Who knows...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiregreenowl 80 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Grandad said: That's exactly what happened with Milan, which is when we saw loans from outside parties secured in the stadium that were settled when the club was sold Nope. That's what Milan mantra is. 1. Find a club introuble 2. Just put enough of your own wealth to Stablize the the club. 3. Sell for a tidy profit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Shiregreenowl 80 said: Nope. That's what Milan mantra is. 1. Find a club introuble 2. Just put enough of your own wealth to Stablize the the club. 3. Sell for a tidy profit. Not arguing against that. But Milan ran out of the money he allocated to the investment and we saw loans secured on the stadium from 3rd parties. One of whom was Pini Zahavi - who is closely linked with Doyen sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Seems like the rumours about man City on twitter are similar to ours, ie half saying they've got away with it and all charges dropped, other half saying full punishment and probably more added just to show em who's boss. Interesting to see which clubs are supported by which posters. Basically, nobody knows. Nick De Marco says 50% reduction is his prediction, so 1year ban and a bit less to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiregreenowl 80 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: Not arguing against that. But Milan ran out of the money he allocated to the investment and we saw loans secured on the stadium from 3rd parties. One of whom was Pini Zahavi - who is closely linked with Doyen sports But these investors are there from start if needed to get club where it needs to be in regards to selling club. Especially pini Zahavi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latemodelchild Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Do the EFL actually have arule/statute in place that says clubs must have enough games left to mitigate any punishment? If so, which is why I doubt it, every game that passes could see our punishment being reduced. Surely they don't want that. We could end up with a 3 or 4 point deduction when we've been initially given 12, but they can't tell us cos they don't want to influence the Derby hearing. That sounds ridiculous. But then it's the EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, latemodelchild said: Do the EFL actually have arule/statute in place that says clubs must have enough games left to mitigate any punishment? If so, which is why I doubt it, every game that passes could see our punishment being reduced. Surely they don't want that. We could end up with a 3 or 4 point deduction when we've been initially given 12, but they can't tell us cos they don't want to influence the Derby hearing. That sounds ridiculous. But then it's the EFL. No they don't - thats just more conjecture that has grown into fact as the thread has gone on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEARSON Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 City’s ban getting reduced to 1 season, opening the door to United getting a CL place, as we get a 12 points deduction -relegating us to league one, sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, PEARSON said: City’s ban getting reduced to 1 season, opening the door to United getting a CL place, as we get a 12 points deduction -relegating us to league one, sounds about right. They might qualify for the Europa League but they won’t finish above Chelsea, Man Utd or Leicester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ferkorf Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Hillsborough tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 12 hours ago, Jim said: I haven't seen this post you're talking about with all due respect. That said you could argue a lack of flexibility in his approach cost us when Fletcher got injured but you'll only argue another point in his favour so I won't bother it's not one post, it was numerous, as there are some who didn't want monk in the first place were just waiting their time. his lack of flexibility (and there was some) was down to the disastrous squad he inherited, but he shuffled what he had, and then found out what we all knew, all our forwards other than fletcher weren't worth a hill of beans. nihiu could perhaps do 15 mins at the end of a game and he used that, but otherwise he'd been handed very poor fare indeed. what would this 'flexibility' have included that he didn't choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 EFL will want this closed off with their “authority” left intact. I think 3 points against Huddersfield, a loss to Fulham and a draw with Middlesbrough would put us on 59 points. We are currently 10 points ahead of 3rd bottom and 11 points ahead when you factor in Wigan’s points deduction. And we have better goal difference, so it’s effectively 11 points and 12 points with Wigan. Those 4 points should see us safe assuming EFL go for a 9 point deduction (which would be my bet). Even with 12 points deduction we’d probably be OK too. So Huddersfield result really important for us IMO to give us breathing space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I seriously do not care about Man City can di marco predict our fate instead because after tomorrow night we have 2 games left.... unbelievable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S25OWL Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, TrickyTrev said: He's representing Derby then as their case on Stadium Sale starts today ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Oh and keeping Wigan below us before a points deduction would be nice to as that guarantees us staying up with 12 point deduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, TaxiMark said: I seriously do not care about Man City can di marco predict our fate instead because after tomorrow night we have 2 games left.... unbelievable! Mark, as much as we need info you cannot expect a Barrister to give out details of a case he has the brief for on social media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taximark Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, steelowl said: Mark, as much as we need info you cannot expect a Barrister to give out details of a case he has the brief for on social media Times are desperado pal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzys Dad Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Because of the delay, any small deduction ( which doesn’t relegate us, would make it appear we’d got off). My guess now, is that we should be cleared, but it is possible the EFL may try to save face, and give us a points deduction (6), with our agreement, which will be applied next season. Just to bring an end to this complete farce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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