Guest Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, sten said: Just heard that we're about to be given a 12 point deduction with a 9 point deduction suspended until next season. Pigsmad forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Yawn. Yet another bullshìt thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I’ve not read this thread, so apologies if it’s already been mentioned. But I don’t really understand the timescales. I seem to remember that when Birmingham had their points deducted there was something about it needed to be applied by the end of March otherwise it would have to apply the following season. Games wise, that’s usually when there’s about 6 games left, which obviously now we have fewer than that left. So if we’re found guilty and get punished then surely it will be applied next season now given timeframes. We’ve heard nothing and the season finishes in 11 days time. It seems unfair to apply it once the season is complete, it seems like the ballpark points deduction is in the 9-12 points region. In our case that will potentially mean we’re automatically relegated, which is unfair, or it will mean that we drop from say 14th to 20th and be completely meaningless if we finish clear of the relegation zone by a wider distance. When Wigan have had their deduction the EFL stated it will be applied this season if they finish outside the bottom 3, or next season if they finished inside it. The point being that it’s a punishment and that if they were relegated anyway it’s meaningless. By the same token, if we’re 15 points clear come the end of the season I can’t see why they’d apply it this season. Then you’d have all of the other teams kicking off wanting it to be applied ASAP. It’s all a bit of a mess and there’s no transparency on what the rules are or when we can expect something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Furious George said: Absolutely! So next time you read anything from an inside source online, it's people like me generating that news story. Enjoy! Fair play to you, there a plenty of people who waste everybody else's time trying to wind people up, but not many who admit it. A modern day Jeremy Beadle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIGHERSTATE Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I suspect someones got a bit over excited by the blades result today, had a few and.......voila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, sten said: Just heard that we're about to be given a 12 point deduction with a 9 point deduction suspended until next season. But @kevtheowl said we'd won the case and that lawyer dude had gone for a walk in the park. Or something like that. I'm feckin confused. Please make it stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I know somebody else has already said this today but it isn't the EFL that decides the punishment. The punishment is decided by the Independant Disciplinary Panel within the guidelines set by the EFL's disciplinary process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious George Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Fair play to you, there a plenty of people who waste everybody else's time trying to wind people up, but not many who admit it. A modern day Jeremy Beadle. Thank you. I'd shake you by the hand with my shrivelled little knuckles if I could. Edited July 11, 2020 by Furious George 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 46 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said: surely we must be arguing they can’t deduct us points with so few games remaining? See you have found us guilty again..you should have applied to defend us on the panel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Any chance if we are found not guilty that they can give us a points addition? Enough to finish min 6th will be lovely thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 It was picked up by undercover agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ever the pessimist Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 This late in the season, I think we either ‘win’ (so no deduction or with so many mitigating circumstances we get a minimal punishment) or it’s next season when our punishment applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Just now, Swiss Toni said: Any chance if we are found not guilty that they can give us a points addition? Enough to finish min 6th will be lovely thanks. I’m sure if you start the rumour and put it on twatter, I’ll give it 15 minutes before an iTKer puts it back on here in a new thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damianb1 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Accuracy of people's statements here makes a huge difference, if it is assine have suggested 9 and 6 is that a 9 point suspension with a further 6 points next season OR 9 points with 6 of them suspended until the end of next season and only applied if further transgressions occur. All in all potentially 12 points difference in possible punishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) I don't know if the EFL will crack on but I definitely know they are on crack. Edited July 11, 2020 by ChinaOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 OP. Porkster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: I read it to mean 3pts off now and 9pts off next season. We can hardly break the rules next season with 60 million smackeroonies looking for a good home. Well if that was the case, I can imagine the team that finishes 3rd bottom will kick off big style! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No 2 is r nilsson Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, doubleo said: Can anyone tell me ? - IF we are found guilty of including the ground sale in the wrong years accounts (and given a points deduction), does that mean that the monies from the sale are then included in the following years accounts (which would according to the EFL case, be the correct year )? Without doing the maths I assume that would give us some wriggle room regarding finances. A win win for Wednesday ! I was thinking the same. We’re 10 pts clear so maybe we’d be ok with 9 pt deduction (assuming we pick up a few more pts and Wigan lose 12). With a Covid year and not looking over our shoulder at previous years this might actually be a good result for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, wilyfox said: Imagine missing a 300-b'stard-page EFL thread and starting this one. 1 page SWFC v EFL 299 pages Neil’s night out in Whitby Edited July 11, 2020 by heppers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Bonvin Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, ChinaOwl said: I don't know if the EFL will crack on but I definitely know they are on crack. They talk out of their cracks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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