cbirks Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: League can’t deduct points if it automatically relegates a team. Well, this isn't true is it, cos the rule with Wigan is their points will be deducted this season if they're outside of the relegation zone, thus easily automatically relegating them. Indeed, they won't deduct the points if they are relegated without a deduction, showing a particularly relegation-minded thinking behind the deductions. Edited July 10, 2020 by cbirks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: League can’t deduct points if it automatically relegates a team. 92.1 The Disciplinary Commission may at any time make a decision, and may make more than one decision at different times on different aspects of the matters to be determined. 92.2 A decision may: 92.2.1 order a party to do or refrain from doing anything; 92.2.2 order a specific performance; 92.2.3 make a declaration on any matter to be determined; 92.2.4 issue a reprimand or warning as to the future conduct of a party; 92.2.5 order the payment of compensation to The League, any Club, any other club, Player or other person; 92.2.6 order a suspension of membership of The League; 92.2.7 order a deduction of points; 92.2.8 impose a financial penalty payable to The League; 92.2.9 recommend expulsion from membership of The League; 92.2.10 order a withdrawal or loss of benefit otherwise available to members of The League e.g. basic award or ladder payment; 92.2.11 impose an embargo on registration of Players; 92.2.12 order any other sanction as the Disciplinary Commission may think fit; and 92.2.13 order that interest be payable on any sums awarded under this Regulation for such period and at such rates as the Disciplinary Commission thinks fit. 92.3 These sanctions may be imposed immediately or may be deferred or suspended for such period and on such terms as the Disciplinary Commission shall decide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, cbirks said: Well, this isn't true is it, cos the rule with Wigan is their points will be deducted this season if they're outside of the relegation zone, thus easily automatically relegating them. Indeed they won't deduct the points if they are relegated without a deduction, showing a particularly-minded thinking behind the deductions. Isn’t that why they’re appealing though? And if they’ve been in admin a week, why haven’t their points come off already, regardless of appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbirks Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, The only way is S6 said: Isn’t that why they’re appealing though? And if they’ve been in admin a week, why haven’t their points come off already, regardless of appeal? Because the points were never going to come off straight away. The decision was that their points would be deducted at the end of the season if they finish the season outside of the relegation zone, if they finish in the relegation zone they're deducted next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Triple O said: Seem to remember that they said they could give virtually any punishment at any time. Including expulsion from the EFL. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, steelowl said: 92.1 The Disciplinary Commission may at any time make a decision, and may make more than one decision at different times on different aspects of the matters to be determined. 92.2 A decision may: 92.2.1 order a party to do or refrain from doing anything; 92.2.2 order a specific performance; 92.2.3 make a declaration on any matter to be determined; 92.2.4 issue a reprimand or warning as to the future conduct of a party; 92.2.5 order the payment of compensation to The League, any Club, any other club, Player or other person; 92.2.6 order a suspension of membership of The League; 92.2.7 order a deduction of points; 92.2.8 impose a financial penalty payable to The League; 92.2.9 recommend expulsion from membership of The League; 92.2.10 order a withdrawal or loss of benefit otherwise available to members of The League e.g. basic award or ladder payment; 92.2.11 impose an embargo on registration of Players; 92.2.12 order any other sanction as the Disciplinary Commission may think fit; and 92.2.13 order that interest be payable on any sums awarded under this Regulation for such period and at such rates as the Disciplinary Commission thinks fit. 92.3 These sanctions may be imposed immediately or may be deferred or suspended for such period and on such terms as the Disciplinary Commission shall decide. Not arguing with that SO. Question is; why aren’t Wigan bottom with 41 points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, The only way is S6 said: Not arguing with that SO. Question is; why aren’t Wigan bottom with 41 points? This has already been answered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelowl Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, The only way is S6 said: Not arguing with that SO. Question is; why aren’t Wigan bottom with 41 points? i think the points only get deducted at the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, cbirks said: Because the points were never going to come off straight away. The decision was that their points would be deducted at the end of the season if they finish the season outside of the relegation zone, if they finish in the relegation zone they're deducted next season. Fair enough. So they can get a deduction after games have finished which sends them down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: That’s what I meant re the deduction. I don’t think they can take 12 off us if there’s only 9 to play for. Automatically relegating us. No they can. They can't take points off us if we were already down Eg if we went down by 10 points and the punishment was -9 points then they would carry over. If we survive by 8 points they can still take off 9 and we'd be down Edited July 10, 2020 by modboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Always!!!! wait for serg .... Hes old scholl.. he's clogging on in years .... Mrs Serg doesn’t mind if I arrive late on the scene. A bit like an old 6 furlong sprinter. “comes with a late rattle...” Along usually I get worked up in the preliminaries and make a mess at the start. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, Sergeant Tibbs said: Mrs Serg doesn’t mind if I arrive late on the scene. A bit like an old 6 furlong sprinter. “comes with a late rattle...” Along usually I get worked up in the preliminaries and make a mess at the start. Kinky ...... Chain of command ?... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbirks Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: Fair enough. So they can get a deduction after games have finished which sends them down? Exactly, ridiculous isn't it? I find the second part particularly cruel, that if they get themselves relegated on their own terms this season they'll deduct the points for the start of their L1 season. Shows a certain heartlessness given that they supposedly ok-ed the new owners barely a month ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, modboy said: They can't take points off us if we were already down They can, but they won’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, cbirks said: Exactly, ridiculous isn't it? I find the second part particularly cruel, that if they get themselves relegated on their own terms this season they'll deduct the points for the start of their L1 season. Shows a certain heartlessness given that they supposedly ok-ed the new owners barely a month ago. Have you forgotten what Leeds did, which is why the rules were changed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, cbirks said: Exactly, ridiculous isn't it? I find the second part particularly cruel, that if they get themselves relegated on their own terms this season they'll deduct the points for the start of their L1 season. Shows a certain heartlessness given that they supposedly ok-ed the new owners barely a month ago. That Parry interview is hilarious if you read it closely. We did everything correctly re the new owners. Large parts of the process are self certification Have you got some money: yes Are you dodgy: no You’re in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbirks Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Essix Blue said: Have you forgotten what Leeds did, which is why the rules were changed? I clearly have forgotten, if I was ever aware, remind me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls-swfc Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 # Till the Blue Clouds drive the EFL far away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Don't get your knickers in a twist people, the verdict isn't in the public domain yet so nothing we can do about it anyway. We do know, if it puts the club in danger of relegation DC will move heaven and earth to appeal. Let's concentrate on not losing at QPR tomorrow first. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Kinky ...... Chain of command ?... It’s true, I have to wait for starters orders. It’s all very regimental round here. The days of frolicking with fillies on West St seem a long way off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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