THE EFL HEARING THREAD

[sonofbert2]

17 minutes ago, snaykz said:

Yes. Between the ages of 0-10. 

 

He was teetotal for ages and then hit the sauce and gone a bit crackers with it.

 

He reminds me of someone I know.

 

[bobness]

18 minutes ago, snaykz said:

Yes. Between the ages of 0-10. 

 

Did he only start watching Wednesday after he turned 10?

[owls-swfc]

Is it this next weeks 5 o'clock yet Deb? 

[Guest gizowl]

54 minutes ago, ZicoSterland2 said:

Been pretty quiet that the poundland prince has taken out a loan to buy out Mcsow's control of the ground and doss house. Strange that a supposed rich Saudi Prince has yet again failed to stick his own money in but hocked the curly tails into a loan to the emirates bank. DC at least throws his own money at it even if it is ill judged. 

Smells of the Glazer's at the proper utd.

[pazowl55]

Anybody else think the EFL maybe holding off our decision on a points deduction till it is not mathematically possible for us to go down.

[jonnyowl]

A good old fashion $***$torm Friday incoming!

[steelowl]

5 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

Anybody else think the EFL maybe holding off our decision on a points deduction till it is not mathematically possible for us to go down.

it isn't their decision it is an independent panel 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

Anybody else think the EFL maybe holding off our decision on a points deduction till it is not mathematically possible for us to go down.

The points deduction decision will come from the independent panel, not the EFL

 

If the case is now sat with the panel, the EFL are essentially helpless to move things along any quicker or delay 

[pazowl55]

1 minute ago, Royal_D said:

The points deduction decision will come from the independent panel, not the EFL

 

If the case is now sat with the panel, the EFL are essentially helpless to move things along any quicker or delay 

 

2 minutes ago, steelowl said:

it isn't their decision it is an independent panel 

But surely it is their choice when they force the penalty.

[kirksandallowl]

3 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

 

But surely it is their choice when they force the penalty.

Nope, see the Macclesfield verdict as an example. Although the EFL have appealed the verdict the panel decided the punishment and how it was applied. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

 

But surely it is their choice when they force the penalty.

The whole situation is clear as mud, and the EFL refuse to comment on anything 

 

But I don’t really see why they would be reluctant to give us a deduction that could/would relegate us

[pazowl55]

2 minutes ago, Royal_D said:

The whole situation is clear as mud, and the EFL refuse to comment on anything 

 

But I don’t really see why they would be reluctant to give us a deduction that could/would relegate us

Because the same as Wigan. If we get relegated on our own they can apply it next season.

Edited July 7, 2020 by pazowl55

[Ian]

2 minutes ago, Royal_D said:

The whole situation is clear as mud, and the EFL refuse to comment on anything 

 

But I don’t really see why they would be reluctant to give us a deduction that could/would relegate us

Don't you?

 

In the current climate how about a significant drop in revenue from our away support

[steelowl]

11 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

 

But surely it is their choice when they force the penalty.

92 Decisions

92.1 The Disciplinary Commission may at any time make a decision, and may make more than one decision at different times on different aspects of the matters to be determined.

92.2 A decision may:

92.2.1 order a party to do or refrain from doing anything;

92.2.2 order a specific performance;

92.2.3 make a declaration on any matter to be determined;

92.2.4 issue a reprimand or warning as to the future conduct of a party;

92.2.5 order the payment of compensation to The League, any Club, any other club, Player or other person;

92.2.6 order a suspension of membership of The League;

92.2.7 order a deduction of points;

92.2.8 impose a financial penalty payable to The League;

92.2.9 recommend expulsion from membership of The League;

92.2.10 order a withdrawal or loss of benefit otherwise available to members of The League e.g. basic award or ladder payment;

92.2.11 impose an embargo on registration of Players;

92.2.12 order any other sanction as the Disciplinary Commission may think fit; and

92.2.13 order that interest be payable on any sums awarded under this Regulation for such period and at such rates as the Disciplinary Commission thinks fit.

92.3 These sanctions may be imposed immediately or may be deferred or suspended for such period and on such terms as the Disciplinary Commission shall decide.

92.4 At any time a Disciplinary Commission may determine (either of its own accord or as a result of representations from a person, Club or club and in any event in its sole discretion) that if the complaint is upheld, it may wish to exercise the power under Regulation 92.2.5 to award compensation.  If the Disciplinary Commission so determines, it shall notify the parties to the proceedings and the potential recipient(s) of this fact. The Disciplinary Commission may then make appropriate directions as to the receipt of evidence of loss from the relevant recipient(s) as well as directions on the receipt of evidence in response from the parties to the proceedings.

92.5 The Disciplinary Commission shall have the power to abridge the time period set out in Regulation 94.3 (time limits for appeal) if there is a compelling reason why the appeal (if any) needs to be concluded expeditiously.

92.6 Any financial sanction and any order for costs shall be paid to The League within 14 days of the date on which the sanction or costs were imposed.  Any compensation shall be paid in accordance with the order of the Disciplinary Commission.

93 Consequences of an Order for Expulsion

93.1 Where the Disciplinary Commission (or where appropriate the Section 9 League Arbitration Tribunal following determination of a Disciplinary Appeal) makes an order that in whole or in part recommends expulsion of a Member Club from The League under Regulation 92.2.9 the Board shall, within 28 days of receiving a copy of the order, call an extraordinary general meeting of The League and present a Special Resolution inviting Member Clubs to ratify the decision of the Disciplinary Commission or League Arbitration Tribunal.

93.2 Where the Member Clubs ratify the decision of the Disciplinary Commission or League Arbitration Tribunal the company secretary of The League shall, within 14 days of the general meeting, serve on the relevant Member Club at its last known address written notice of the decision together with written notice to transfer its share(s) in accordance with Article 4.5.

93.3 Subject to Regulation 94, the decision of the Disciplinary Commission shall be binding upon all the Clubs, Officials and Players

[Pablo Bonvin]

All those up to 92.2.4 bring to mind trying to reason with Mrs Bonvin.

[steelowl]

I was thinking we could appeal to kick into the long grass and cause further delay to any deduction of points to next season

 

but it seems if it's urgent and this could be called urgent to decide final placings 

 

92.5 The Disciplinary Commission shall have the power to abridge the time period set out in Regulation 94.3 (time limits for appeal) if there is a compelling reason why the appeal (if any) needs to be concluded expeditiously.

[steelowl]

Just now, Pablo Bonvin said:

All those up to 92.2.4 bring to mind trying to reason with Mrs Bonvin.

 

 

in my experience that is impossible to reason with an aggrieved female mind 

[Pablo Bonvin]

Just now, steelowl said:

 

 

in my experience that is impossible to reason with an aggrieved female mind 

Can’t reason with any female mind, aggrieved or otherwise....

[kirksandallowl]

5 minutes ago, steelowl said:

92.2 A decision may:

92.2.1 order a party to do or refrain from doing anything;

92.2.2 order a specific performance;

So the punishment in theory could be 

 

Wednesday say sorry to the EFL

 

or

 

All Wednesday players must sing a song of their choosing whilst wearing mankinis and clown faces (that would be a right performance)

[steelowl]

like everyone else i haven't a scooby what's happening 

 

i too have had texts saying it's done decision  announced tonight blah blah 2 days ago 

 

Only a guess  but i suppose it's possible there's an appeal just gone in by the EFL or us   

 

I'm still confident until i hear otherwise