Socialist_Owl Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: It was, and sadly we've put up with the drama for a further three and a half years. Gullible taking CCs side of story ... Dont matter anymore, but remember who sided on management. Barf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Socialist_Owl said: Gullible taking CCs side of story ... Dont matter anymore, but remember who sided on management. Barf. My main gripe with this "story" is that for whatever reason he didn't make the team bus to Norwich, and the rest of the team did. Yet 2 months later the rumour was the chairman had given him a substantial wage rise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, daveyboy66 said: Having seen your postings over the years you wouldn't recognise a footballer if one bit you on the arris' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, prowl said: I can't see that being true. Fox is a better player now than then, minimum we would offer is existing terms and probably a bit on top for inflation . Personally I can see him getting £10K-£12K. You're ignoring the fact that we are in a very different financial situation now. About time players wised up too. Most clubs outside the PL will be simply trying to stave off bankruptcy so clearly their biggest expenditure will need to be reigned in significantly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Just now, Brommers said: You're ignoring the fact that we are in a very different financial situation now. About time players wised up too. Most clubs outside the PL will be simply trying to stave off bankruptcy so clearly their biggest expenditure will need to be reigned in significantly. spot on mate …... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 There's also a possibility Fox is hoping for a move but playing it clever. Ask for a sizeable wage to extend his contract on the assumption the club says no but happy days (financially if they agree). If club refuses, he can claim he wanted to stay but club wouldn't offer he a reasonable deal thus saving face. Sure he'll get a reasonable deal elsewhere and who could blame him for wanting to leave after the horrendous stick he's received for several years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincowl Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Can’t believe the comments about Fox. Left footed players are of a premium as it is, let alone decent fullbacks that have been as good as any player in our squad. Signing a new contract as an established player also avoids transfer fees, signing on fees and settling in time. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: My main gripe with this "story" is that for whatever reason he didn't make the team bus to Norwich, and the rest of the team did. Yet 2 months later the rumour was the chairman had given him a substantial wage rise. There is nothing as murky as the financial dealings within football Remember when John Terry would only sign a new contract at Chelsea if it guaranteed he would always be their highest paid player? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, daveyboy66 said: Having seen your postings over the years you wouldn't recognise a footballer if one bit you on the arris' I'd still know one before you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, scram said: There is nothing as murky as the financial dealings within football Remember when John Terry would only sign a new contract at Chelsea if it guaranteed he would always be their highest paid player? Not heard that one. I heard the chav fans that Chelsea breed were happy to line his pockets to attend their poor kid’s christenings, to the tune of £10k a time. Lest we forget he was less than discreet with his attention toward Wayne Bridges partner, finishing Bridges careers at Chelsea and England. To cap it all, his wife stayed loyal. Lets hope Covid rids us of this greed, although I doubt it. Rant over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: I'd still know one before you. I’m hearing the word “handbags” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Not heard that one. I heard the chav fans that Chelsea breed were happy to line his pockets to attend their poor kid’s christenings, to the tune of £10k a time. Lest we forget he was less than discreet with his attention toward Wayne Bridges partner, finishing Bridges careers at Chelsea and England. To cap it all, his wife stayed loyal. Lets hope Covid rids us of this greed, although I doubt it. Rant over. This is purely speculation on my part - but it is also educated guesswork as to how football operates... Lets just say FF (more likely his advisers) asked for Y - the club said - we cannot pay that amount but we can go as far as X And after some back and forth Team FF agree that "ok if that is the best you can do we will sign" - then a short while later another player comes in and instantly gets Y... Now i know people will say "well if the greedy t.wat cannot live off £20k pw" (whatever) But that is not the point in those mega financial deals - if a player feels betrayed over what they have accepted based on promises then they do have justification for feeling scammed It is exactly what happened to Ashley Cole at Arsenal - and he was forever known as greedy (Cashley) after that despite the fault being with the club and not him 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 2 hours ago, scram said: This is purely speculation on my part - but it is also educated guesswork as to how football operates... Lets just say FF (more likely his advisers) asked for Y - the club said - we cannot pay that amount but we can go as far as X And after some back and forth Team FF agree that "ok if that is the best you can do we will sign" - then a short while later another player comes in and instantly gets Y... Now i know people will say "well if the greedy t.wat cannot live off £20k pw" (whatever) But that is not the point in those mega financial deals - if a player feels betrayed over what they have accepted based on promises then they do have justification for feeling scammed It is exactly what happened to Ashley Cole at Arsenal - and he was forever known as greedy (Cashley) after that despite the fault being with the club and not him Surely the other player is entitled to earn 'Y' while FF is paid 'X' due to his experience of playing and performing at a higher level more? Shouldn't feel scammed that the club are able to pay more to a player of higher stature in the game at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal M Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 We should have fizzed him off when he refused to travel to Norwich. fizz him. 3 I move a lot of concrete on the QVC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnssweetshop Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 3 hours ago, scram said: if the fans and club feel betrayed over what they have accepted based on promises then they do have justification for feeling scammed Altered it for you to put it into a real world perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 10 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: When you look at Forestieri’s time at Wednesday after that first season where for me he was the best player in the league, we’ve had the following... Refused to play for the club. Was suspended by the club for a training ground incident involving Sam Winnall. Called out in the media by the vice captain for not trying hard enough in training. Returns to training after the COVID19 outbreak way behind his team mates in terms of his physical condition. Spot on. Fans are blinded by the fact his agent has told him to have a mini Hillsborough in his house, pose with a few kids and play the wounded animal. The quicker he goes, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo hippy Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I've said since the loss to Huddersfield we should cash in. Shame we won't get anything for him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William 1867 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Always two side's of the story with Monk. If I were a player who is not to get a new contract why would I sign for a extra month at a risk of getting an injury and not being able to sign for a new club next season. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, William 1867 said: Always two side's of the story with Monk. If I were a player who is not to get a new contract why would I sign for a extra month at a risk of getting an injury and not being able to sign for a new club next season. You choose not to believe either Bannan or Monk that he hasn’t been giving his all in training? Or your own eyes in warm-ups and half-time routines? Strike you as a player straining every sinew to get his shirt back? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 7 hours ago, Holmowl said: You choose not to believe either Bannan or Monk that he hasn’t been giving his all in training? Or your own eyes in warm-ups and half-time routines? Strike you as a player straining every sinew to get his shirt back? Do you think the majority on here think many of the players have been straining every sinew this year? The same ones that have failed regularly in 2020 get picked in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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