briggowl Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Just can't see it. If players contracts finish in June, they could be out of here before we re-start? Wish this EFL charge would hurry up. Can't be good to have it hanging over anyone this long!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Get rid. Use the money for players who want to play for the club all the time and not just when they feel like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Good question I honestly can't see it If anything I can see the out of favour players being pushed even further out of view for good, along with out of contract players. I don't see ways back for Hutchinson, Westwood etc at all It wouldn't surprise me if Hutchinson & Westwood aren't even training at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 In the short term we need results. I’m hoping Monk has had time over the last three months to reflect on his sh!t tactics, sh!t team selections and sh!t Man management skills since Christmas. If he still thinks that these three aspects of his management here was more than adequate then expect more sh!t performances and results when the championship resumes. Monk Out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 12 minutes ago, mogbad said: It wouldn't surprise me if Hutchinson & Westwood aren't even training at the club. Do you think they’re in the city of Sheffield? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Do you think they’re in the city of Sheffield? No idea mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 Pride comes before a fall. We need everyone back and pulling in the same direction. Whilst Westwood isn't the force he once was, he is still the best keeper at the club and it's insane to pay his wages and overlook him especially with out current form and tough run in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 hours ago, Great Big Galaa said: In the short term we need results. I’m hoping Monk has had time over the last three months to reflect on his sh!t tactics, sh!t team selections and sh!t Man management skills since Christmas. If he still thinks that these three aspects of his management here was more than adequate then expect more sh!t performances and results when the championship resumes. Monk Out! Nail on the head. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Hutchinson and Westwood have been tried and tested performers. That much I know. Has their time come? Are they no longer up to it? In truth, I don't know - but I do know their replacements have given little indication they have the ability to be equal or better than the player they're replacing. And that's never a good sign. In fact, I've not been particular convinced by the guy that thought it fit to exclude them in the first place. The guy's got a definite whiff of Wilson about him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Personally think hutch, westwood and monk should all be shown the door This club needs a new beginning and none of the above should be part of this club going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said: Personally think hutch, westwood and monk should all be shown the door This club needs a new beginning and none of the above should be part of this club going forward We need one of the following. Warnock McCarthy Bruce Megson Hughton To name but a few, all have 2 or more promotions from this division, all know what it takes to get out of this league and all available or soon to be available. We need experience going forward and all of the above have it in bucket loads. My personal preference for the record would be Jokanovic but he is creaming a living in Qatar and I doubt he would swap that for us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S72 Owl Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Would love Hutch and Westwood back in the team. Two of our best players. Let them go at the end of the season if need be but put pride aside for a minute because we’re currently in a relegation battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mcguigan Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 9 hours ago, Emerson Thome said: It's a funny little niggling one, hard to say, maybe back in two weeks.... Exactly, which explains his 123 starts in over 276 games. A free transfer, so not a bad piece of business but his times up here. 31 y/o next with a poor injury record. Not sure where he'll end up tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 No it's an opportunity to off load some players and build a new squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapSmurf Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I am fairly certain (95%) that Hutchinson has gone. He sold his house months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Owl Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 11 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: It look like Hutchinson has played his last game for us, I'd have liked to see him again this season but a new contract would probably be going too far. Disagree on the availability issue though, how many times this season was he unavailable for selection before the manager put an end to him being available? This season he's not been to bad but theres been previous seasons where his availability just isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gizowl Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 It's imperative we have a positive conclusion to the season, we need the EFL to do their job ASAP, bring the investigation to an end , if any punishment to be received it's enforced this season even if it means relegation so we can start afresh, clean slate. Everything from Chansiri needs to be reassessed . It's clear that Chansiri with his heart in the right place and good intentions cannot run a football club, he has to either sell up or employ a DOF, set a budget and step aside . Someone like Steve Bruce, Chris Hughton esk, maybe then the club we love can start to move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meggoisgod Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 14 hours ago, GoldenLee said: I know I may get slaughtered for this but here goes. With the players now back in training and life hopefully moving back in the right direction for this country and the world, is now the time to start over with players who have been frozen out of the club? If one thing this pandemic has taught a lot of people is that things that may have been considered important in life are maybe not as important as they once were. I know it is more or less certainty that certain players (and good players, let’s not deny it) are leaving this summer but after all that has happened wouldn’t now be the perfect time for those players and manager to go “Do you know what, we’ve got 9 games of the season left, let’s just put our differences to once side and give it our all between now and the end of the season for the team and then we can go our separate ways”. I know some people will think this is incredibly wishful thinking but what do people think? Do you think there could be any possibility of this happening? Stay safe everyone WAWAW I'd like a clean slate by getting rid of the entire lot pls including manager and bullen...probably too severe but that's my gut feel on the only way forward 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 It's very difficult for me to show some objectivity but I'll really try this once. Quite a very high percentage of players when they sign for this football club tend to be here for a significant period of time. I would say on average around 3 years or so, which with the high turnaround of players in the game is quite a long period at any club. Right now, we have Lee 8 years, Nuhiu 7, Westwood, Lees, Hutchinson 6, Bannan, Forestieri 5, Fletcher, Reach 4. Then you've got the likes of Palmer, Wildsmith and Dawson who are in their twenties and have been at the club since they were kids. Some will say this is down to the Chairman who likes to hoard players? This may be true but this has been happening here for years? Buxton, Semedo, Tudgay, JJ, Loovens, Palmer, Hirst, Worthington, Pressman. There are many others. All examples of players who once they sign here, they seem happy to stay. Is that because there's a comfortable environment here, they don't get pushed enough or it's too good a place to leave as it caters for every players needs? I might be wrong and most likely am but perhaps we keep hitting brick walls continuously as the club tries to develop is as much down to the lack of turnover of players here as there inevitably comes a time like now where everything becomes stale and predictable. We need a manager who can understand this, get hold of the problem and try to get things moving because until this situation gets addressed once and for all, we'll continue to meander along until we hit the ultimate brick wall that we won't manage to come through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystic Neg Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 If all the players who are soon to be out of contract don't put a shift in they are going to find it harder than ever to get a decent contract in the summer. The time for a complete fresh start is when we finally see the end of this season. Monk deserves a chance to build his own squad and keep the men he wants, like it or not. The last 3 managers, Bruce included have inherited a tired, disjointed and unmotivated squad. The new start must have a fresh and better approach and leadership by DC too but of all the things that need to happen that is least likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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