Dutch McLovin Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 11 hours ago, 83owl said: Probably because it doesn’t make sense for a club that is already in financial trouble to pay someone who doesn’t contribute to the team over £1million a year just because they are “infectious” and “clearly a fantastic person to be around” He does contribute to the team when we play properly. It’s monks contribution that is the problem, as it was with Jos. Play a attacking possession based style like CC did at first and Bruce was started to implement and you’ll get the best out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldGigsChris Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Why don't the club post these on iFollow? - a service that they're charging me for 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 12 hours ago, S36 OWL said: I lost all respect for him when he spat his dummy out and refused to travel to Norwich. He should have been shipped out then. Forgiveness is one of life’s greatest gifts. It rids you of your frustration and negatively towards someone and makes you feel good about yourself. You ought to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Dutch McLovin said: He does contribute to the team when we play properly. It’s monks contribution that is the problem, as it was with Jos. Play a attacking possession based style like CC did at first and Bruce was started to implement and you’ll get the best out of him. What has he contributed in the last 3 seasons? 8 goals? Hardly someone we have to build a team around. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 3 hours ago, 83owl said: What has he contributed in the last 3 seasons? 8 goals? Hardly someone we have to build a team around. How many times in the last 3 seasons have we played attacking football ?? Maybe Forestieri isn’t the problem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 On 29/05/2020 at 10:52, Andrew_Owl said: Wants to, not been played on in nearly 3 months had that much shiite on it since christmas, it should be looking good! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 On 30/05/2020 at 22:07, Dutch McLovin said: How many times in the last 3 seasons have we played attacking football ?? Maybe Forestieri isn’t the problem Or maybe you look at his stats throughout his career and see that at every club he’s been at he’s failed to nail down a regular starting place and perform consistently. The first 18 months we had him was by far the best he has performed anywhere throughout his career, given that he is now 30 I would say that purple patch was the exception rather than the norm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 2 hours ago, 83owl said: Or maybe you look at his stats throughout his career and see that at every club he’s been at he’s failed to nail down a regular starting place and perform consistently. The first 18 months we had him was by far the best he has performed anywhere throughout his career, given that he is now 30 I would say that purple patch was the exception rather than the norm. Why did he perform so well in his 18 month stint here ?? A good manager would ask that then do something to sustain that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 On 30/05/2020 at 22:07, Dutch McLovin said: How many times in the last 3 seasons have we played attacking football ?? Maybe Forestieri isn’t the problem Doesn't seem to have bothered Fletcher. His productivity has considerably improved in the last 18 months or so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 1 hour ago, DJMortimer said: Doesn't seem to have bothered Fletcher. His productivity has considerably improved in the last 18 months or so. And why is that ?!? Again it’s down to the style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 51 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: And why is that ?!? Again it’s down to the style. The style? That explanation/excuse is usually used for the purposes of confirmation bias, especially when it relates to Jordan Rhodes. It's a cop out most of the time. When he scores it 'proves' how good he is, and when he doesn't; something amorphous is to blame. No more authoritative than claiming the tablets I'm taking are keeping the dragons away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 22 hours ago, Dutch McLovin said: Why did he perform so well in his 18 month stint here ?? A good manager would ask that then do something to sustain that. Like I said just a purple patch in his career. Most players have them at some point. Unless you are suggesting that at every other club he’s been at the “style” wasn’t suited to him there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 19 hours ago, 83owl said: Like I said just a purple patch in his career. Most players have them at some point. Unless you are suggesting that at every other club he’s been at the “style” wasn’t suited to him there either. He's only really played at us and Watford, he's never really had a run anywhere else and he was good at Watford there style suited him. He might not have had the goals which is the purple patch you elude to but he was good for them. Then he came here and had the performance and goals in a good attacking style. We then changed and his form as dropped. Not totally his fault that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: He's only really played at us and Watford, he's never really had a run anywhere else and he was good at Watford there style suited him. He might not have had the goals which is the purple patch you elude to but he was good for them. Then he came here and had the performance and goals in a good attacking style. We then changed and his form as dropped. Not totally his fault that Not sure that’s true mate. If you can be bothered, go on the Hornets site and type in Forestieri. You’ll read exactly the divided opinion you find on OT. Their summary - terrific talent, don’t know his position, couldn’t hold down a place. Edited June 4, 2020 by Holmowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Forestieri only averaged 18+12 appearances and 7 goals per season (all competitions) at Watford, so he can hardly be described as a roaring success there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
83owl Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Dutch McLovin said: He's only really played at us and Watford, he's never really had a run anywhere else and he was good at Watford there style suited him. He might not have had the goals which is the purple patch you elude to but he was good for them. Then he came here and had the performance and goals in a good attacking style. We then changed and his form as dropped. Not totally his fault that He’s had about 6 clubs in Italy, couldn’t hold down a place for too long at any of them. At Watford he was a bit part player and played in roughly 60% of the games. They only ever started him when they were playing against the dross like us. They practically gave him away when they got promoted, shows you just how well thought of he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, 83owl said: He’s had about 6 clubs in Italy, couldn’t hold down a place for too long at any of them. At Watford he was a bit part player and played in roughly 60% of the games. They only ever started him when they were playing against the dross like us. They practically gave him away when they got promoted, shows you just how well thought of he was. With you mate fed up with fans trying to be positive about players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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