camffiti Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 18 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Apart from the multiple times when it has? Urhoghide, Hunt, Stobbs, Clare, Penney, Dawson, Kirby, Wildsmith, Hirst, O’Grady, Thorniley, Preston all got game time in recent seasons. I think the problem is we are either too close to the bottom of the league or on a rare occasion pushing for promotion and it’s not really a learning environment in that kind of pressure. If we did end up in league one i wonder how many would be in our first team. Ipswich seem to be bringing a few through as do Sunderland Hence my use of the word sustained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Of course the intention is to play him in the first team , it’s up to George to prove he’s good enough . All I know is he supports Wednesday , chose Wednesday, his Dad was the best striker ever to play for us that I’ve seen , so the potential was there ,picked for England regular , scored goals for fun . Let’s see if he emulates the other Wednesday fan at Leicester ,I really hope he does . he is doing nothing at Leicester ,half of time is only a sub for u23s ,don't think he has scored many either for there u23s . he is a typical young player money and fame goes to there head and drive and workrate drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 36 minutes ago, camffiti said: Hence my use of the word sustained That was a different post. Didn’t see that one. The ones who impress enough do get a reasonable chance and are planned for ie Dawson, Penney, Beevers, Wood, Spurr etc will possibly see this with Hunt. If anyone was going to get a chance it was the son of Hirst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 55 minutes ago, bladeshater said: Which of these players we have not given a chance to have gone on to play at an higher level. And don't say vardy it's been done to death We are graveyard of young talent. Luhukay aside no one gave youngsters chance here. Though I hope that trend is changing with Monk including Urhoghide and Hunt in the first team squad, although in my opinion they are not pick of talent from our U-23 squad. There is a good reason why AFC Wimbledon released Urhoghide last season. It is a travesty that player as talented as Matt Penney at 22 made only 16 appearances for us. Chansiri refusing to cover wages of players going out on loan goes long way to prove this, although from what I hear it changed this season (hope I heard right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 hours ago, folger said: Like all of our younger players he's has been criminally mismanaged and his biggest mistake was joining our academy instead of Man city's or the pigs. How's he been mismanaged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Like everything else at the club , the academy has been run crap . In this instance though , it’s no major loss . Horst hasn’t and never will make it . Anyone who’s actually watched him could see that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 This thread reads like a thread for people to post about the girlfriend how jilted them and ran off with their best mate Some proper salty tears being shed Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Young lad chases the money. Not the first and certainly won't be the last. Whilever we remain in this division there's always the chance the cream will be picked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, handworth52 said: he is doing nothing at Leicester ,half of time is only a sub for u23s ,don't think he has scored many either for there u23s . he is a typical young player money and fame goes to there head and drive and workrate drops. hes there top scorer with 14 in 21 apps ……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 hour ago, handworth52 said: he is doing nothing at Leicester ,half of time is only a sub for u23s ,don't think he has scored many either for there u23s . he is a typical young player money and fame goes to there head and drive and workrate drops. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 The whole situation was a total c0ck up on our part. Totally unprofessional how this kid was demonised by the club’s hierarch for not signing a new contract and essentially forced out of the club he’s supported his whole life. And anyone that thinks it’s ok for Chansiri to be getting involved on who plays and who is ‘frozen out’ is part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 26, 2020 Author Share Posted May 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Westfield Owl said: Totally unprofessional how this kid was demonised by the club’s hierarch for not signing a new contract and essentially forced out of the club he’s supported his whole life. He's demonised by our fans more Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said: The whole situation was a total c0ck up on our part. Totally unprofessional how this kid was demonised by the club’s hierarch for not signing a new contract and essentially forced out of the club he’s supported his whole life. And anyone that thinks it’s ok for Chansiri to be getting involved on who plays and who is ‘frozen out’ is part of the problem. How much do you think we should have paid a lad who 2 years after moving on from us is still yet to make a 1st team appearance at a decent level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: He's demonised by our fans more In what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camffiti Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: This thread reads like a thread for people to post about the girlfriend how jilted them and ran off with their best mate Some proper salty tears being shed He was sh*t anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: How much do you think we should have paid a lad who 2 years after moving on from us is still yet to make a 1st team appearance at a decent level? that's impossible to answer …...you make him an offer and if he doesn't accept you try to sell him would be the usual way to go . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, torryowl said: that's impossible to answer …...you make him an offer and if he doesn't accept you try to sell him would be the usual way to go . I agree, as was said earlier the mistake was made in not selling him for £2M when the offer was on the table but once that was rejected it seems he didn't accept what we offered and engineered a way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted May 26, 2020 Share Posted May 26, 2020 Under the ownership ,We do not develop our young players ,We have an Academy for what purpose I do not Know . If we get relegated ,The youth might get a chance . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westfield Owl Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 4 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: How much do you think we should have paid a lad who 2 years after moving on from us is still yet to make a 1st team appearance at a decent level? Hirst played for our first team at a young age. I’d say the Championship and League Cup are a decent level. Wouldn’t you? Leicester offered us £2 million quid for Hirst before the club’s relationship with the player had turned sour. If the club didn’t think he was worth the salary GH was wanting, I totally understand the club not agreeing to pay him more than he is worth. I mean, that type of thing must happen with many players at different clubs up and down the country. It will be a very common occurrence in the football world. It makes us look totally incompetent that the club turned down a £2 million quid transfer fee, for a player that ended up leaving for next to nothing 2 years later. Yes I know it’s easy to shrug it off as ‘only’ £2 million. But we’ve been in multiple transfer embargoes over the last few years because of poor financial management of the club. Bullsh*t like this is part of the reason why we are in such a mess off the field and on it. Also, Hirst being cheeky and asking for a raise in salary, doesn’t justify freezing the player out of the squad, just to save our stupid chairman’s pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 The Head grows exponentially faster than the wallet and therein lies the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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