Boozy footballers

[Belfast Owl 2]

4 minutes ago, Buxtongent said:

Knew many chaps who could down 10-12 pints on Sun Night, then go in at 6am Mon and do a full shift underground. Also many in the Steel and iron works, similar. Can't recall many suffering Can't recall many 'Mental Breakdowns ' either.

Trouble with a lot of Footballers of today is that they are 'modern' Theydon't simply stick toale, but start mixing cocktails and shorts , and like many of today's fans, have to go OTT .

This, together with an excess of cash, and an inveterate desire to show off doesnt help.

 

Shocking post

 

Are you downplaying very real mental breakdowns ?

 

 

[@owlstalk]

1 minute ago, Belfast Owl 2 said:

 

Shocking post

 

Are you downplaying very real mental breakdowns ?

 

 

 

To be fair the older generation don't really believe in mental health because back then people had breakdowns behind closed doors and never admitted to them as it would be seen as some kind of weakness or worse a perception of being a mental case.

 

Mental breakdowns most definitely DID happen back then though. 

[Errol Flashman]

23 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

To be fair the older generation don't really believe in mental health because back then people had breakdowns behind closed doors and never admitted to them as it would be seen as some kind of weakness or worse a perception of being a mental case.

 

Mental breakdowns most definitely DID happen back then though. 

 

"Where's aunt Shirley, mum?"

"She's gone for some sea air and a bit of a break"

"What? In Whiteley woods?"

[unkastav]

Just dont over-do it

Edited May 20, 2020 by unkastav

[ChapSmurf]

6 hours ago, Buxtongent said:

Knew many chaps who could down 10-12 pints on Sun Night, then go in at 6am Mon and do a full shift underground. Also many in the Steel and iron works, similar. Can't recall many suffering Can't recall many 'Mental Breakdowns ' either.

Trouble with a lot of Footballers of today is that they are 'modern' Theydon't simply stick toale, but start mixing cocktails and shorts , and like many of today's fans, have to go OTT .

This, together with an excess of cash, and an inveterate desire to show off doesnt help.

 

How would you know what they were really thinking? How do you know what they felt like when they were alone? How do you know what troubles they had? You don't, because they simply would have hidden it from everyone. And I mean, everyone. Maybe they didn't have any, but maybe they did. Either way, you personally wouldn't have known about it.

 

Mental health isn't something people talk about, because it makes them feel weak, stupid, pathetic. In a dressing room full of other testosterone driven footballers, you cannot show one ounce of weakness, otherwise you'd feel exposed. The same will have gone for the men working in the very tough steel and iron works you talk about. Or in the coal mines, but every human being has feeling and emotions, so please don't just dismiss this as a non-existant entity.

 

My brother is an ex-professional footballer, alcoholic, gambler and drug abuser (11 years sober on all counts). He tried to commit suicide twice after leaving the game but has since gained a PhD due to his research in to mental health issues during footballers career transitions (natural retirements or early retirement through injury).

 

I consider myself to be exceptional strong minded, but when I found out almost five years ago that my former partner, later to be my wife, had stage 4 cancer at 49, it blew my world apart. She died 39 hours after we married at Weston Park hospital - four and half months after being diagnosed. I hit the drink hard for three months and needed counselling. I probably still would if it wasn't for my new partner.

 

I met my new partner just over 3 years ago. Her previous partner had committed suicide, as he was raped as a teenager. He was unable to deal with the consequences of that awful ordeal and was alcoholic for about 20 years of his life, before it just became too much. He couldn't turn to anyone for help as he couldn't bare to relive those experiences. His own parents dismissed what had happened and disbelieved him. He felt abandoned. He decided to end his life the day before my partners birthday, so can you imagine the impact that has on her birthday, every year, probably for the rest of her life?

 

So please, don't dismiss mental health as something that you can just shake off within a few months or that you are not susceptible, because everyone is and at one time or another, we have all suffered from this. I am just glad that in this day and age it's not something to be ashamed of, and that people like my brother, like me and my partner, can go and talk to trained people to discuss these issue and find peace again.

 

I'm going to end this post on a positve note to show life can turn around, if you seek help when it is needed. I became a dad for the first time in December, at 50 years of age. My son, and my partner, are the stars that light my sky and I am so grateful I have them both in my life, along with my family and friends. So mental health is something that can treated affectively and something that an individual can move away from, if you have courage and strength to say "I need help".

[markg]

15 hours ago, unkastav said:

Just dont over-do it

Not heard that song for ages 

[sheriwozgod]

As far as the show is concerned I think ITV have a lot to answer for.

 

If they knew all along that Razor was under medical instructions not to take part then why in the name of f***wittery did they invite him along ?

 

It was for one reason only , they knew full well what he would do and were a party to it, they set up their recording gear in a bar and watched him down pints, shots , jagerbombs etc when they KNEW healthwise he was a ticking timebomb...…...………….can you imagine just for a minute if he had keeled over in the bar ?

[Dutch McLovin]

19 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

 

Oh dear....

Intervention needed on Stoop by the looks of it

I think hes right. 

[marconi]

Great post @ChapSmurf best of luck in the future. God bless you.

[Harrysgame]

Last year's show was good fun and was about the football and fun.

This year they have it have messed about and gone looking for angst and struggles of these former players. They have stage managed each comment, scene to try to make it sensationalist. About a third of those players were no way near fit enough to play, injuries etc. Razor in the bar was a disgrace, talk about enticement by the tv company. Would have been better if they didn't show it voyeurism at its worst.

Thanks ITV for spoiling a decent program.

[ChapSmurf]

6 minutes ago, marconi said:

Great post @ChapSmurf best of luck in the future. God bless you.

 

Thank you and to you and yours too.

 

I don't want anyone feeling sorry for me, as I am sure there will be others on here who have sadly suffered worse. I just hope it helps inspire people to seek help if needed, and to show what strength and courage along with bucket loads of support from family and friends, can achieve.

[Owl999]

21 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

I think people are realising that  the days of egging footballers on to drink loads and have funny stories are rightly over.

The aftermath of that generation is horrific.

Mental breakdowns all over the place.

Suicidal ex footballers in a right mess

 

 

Footballers are so pampered that they never learn how life works or basic life skills, hardly surprising they suffer mentally, anyone who actually began to live as a grown up in their mid 30s would struggle to adjust .

[Guest ka58]

First series was great - players were visibly getting healthier And fitter from the process.

 

this series was pretty average for me - just a load of blokes wandering around in the middle of nowhere saying how concerned they were for “razor” and “merse” whilst sat plying razor with drink in a bar whilst he sat with a bra round his head and a sober merson sat upstairs in a hotel room on his own worrying about him.

[fatbloke no1]

After a night match in London,we stopped off for a pint,got afterbird,merson walked in about midnight,we gave him some stick,he turned round and walked out,came back about 20 minutes later and said ,leave it out lads I can't get a drink anywhere else,we did and he got round in for all mini bus,ended up having top sesh with him