nevthelodgemoorowl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Grandad said: My bad I just thought you were using a statement to have (another totally predictable) dig Contradiction and confrontation in a good natured way comes a lot easier when sharing a coffee. May suggest that, if I make it through lockdown Edited May 20, 2020 by nevthelodgemoorowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 The fact we were charged around the end of October last year and here we are not far off halfway through the following year just goes to show what an utter farce this all is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, trev said: That's pretty effing horrific. Nope - again not valid I'm talking about specific examples of how this EFL press has damaged SWFC brand I just want to see one specific example of where our brand has been damaged from it. Just one Someone somewhere must know ONE example to show that it's not just being something that's spouted with no facts behind it? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: I'm talking specifically about the current situation that has been posted about Bad press about this current EFL action etc Well non that is in the public domain - but unless you are privvy to the workings within football non are likely to come to light. Chansiri is thought of as a hard man to deal with and I have been told this by the finance director at Leeds. He tends to do most if not all of the negotiating with regards to the financial decisions at the club and he is a hard nosed when conducting these deals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, nevthelodgemoorowl said: Contradiction and confrontation in a good natured way comes a lot easier when sharing a coffee. May suggest that, if I make it through lockdown Another clear the air coffee?? You're bleeding buying this time (and don't be pretending to have forgotten your wallet again ) Bloody Yorkshiremen. We're all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, soldierboyblue said: Well non that is in the public domain But we're being told that the brand has been damaged? How can that be a statement to be believed if there's no factual evidence to support it? If nothing's in the public domain then what evidence does ANYONE have to say the brand has been damaged? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So let's use YOUR logic here You haven't seen any commercially sensitive data, you've not seen the Owls balance sheet of Covid 19 OR the workings of Monk's contract So how can you POSSIBLY say that Wednesday have been damaged by bad press? You can't give a single, solitary example to show all the readers of this thread So with that in mind let me just warn you that people will probably make their mind up that you have just totally just made this 'damage' thing up. Simple way to show you are right, accurate and not making any of this up is to simply say 'yeah mate here you are' and post ONE specific example of where this damage has hit our club. Which bit of brand not solely being all about commercial contracts is one of us missing here.... perception and reputation are pillars of a brand If you don't believe that there is any impact fine, but equally you have no evidence of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, nbupperthongowl said: Which bit of brand not solely being all about commercial contracts is one of us missing here.... perception and reputation are pillars of a brand If you don't believe that there is any impact fine, but equally you have no evidence of this Still waiting... NOTHING so far mate... Nothing.... I've not asked for anything tricky for you if your statement is factual Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Nope - again not valid I'm talking about specific examples of how this EFL press has damaged SWFC brand I just want to see one specific example of where our brand has been damaged from it. Just one Someone somewhere must know ONE example to show that it's not just being something that's spouted with no facts behind it? I don't even know why I'm trying. I don't actually think the brand has been damaged. Our brand was pretty low stock to begin with. Much bigger brands have had far worse accusations thrown at them and brushed it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdan2003 Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Barnsley are willing to spend more on potential legal fees than transfer fees. Perhaps if they changed that strategy, maybe they’d mount a serious challenge for staying up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, trev said: I don't actually think the brand has been damaged. Serious question mate - have you seen anything to say that is has? I haven't I've been told it has in this thread so asked for just ONE example of how Nothing so far Nothing but some bluster and nonsense replies trying to skirt around the request for an example Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Still waiting... NOTHING so far mate... Nothing.... I've not asked for anything tricky for you if your statement is factual Ermmmmm... maybe the quotes in the original press article are specific examples of how we are perceived so how the SWFC brand is being damaged Still waiting for your specifics to the contrary btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trev Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Serious question mate - have you seen anything to say that is has? I haven't I've been told it has in this thread so asked for just ONE example of how Nothing so far Nothing but some bluster and nonsense replies trying to skirt around the request for an example Nah. Not yet. Maybe after the court case though? Depends what happens I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, nbupperthongowl said: Ermmmmm... maybe the quotes in the original press article are specific examples of how we are perceived so how the SWFC brand is being damaged Nope that's not what I asked for mate I asked for a specific example to prove that the brand has been damaged Keep trying So far... NOTHING Come on.. I'm not asking for anything difficult for you if what you're saying is a fact? I'll wait..... Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbupperthongowl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Nope that's not what I asked for mate I asked for a specific example to prove that the brand has been damaged Keep trying So far... NOTHING I'll wait..... Actually it is..... doesn't matter what you ask for, the evidence is the quotes, Still waiting for your examples to prove the contrary NOTHING I WILL WAIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: But we're being told that the brand has been damaged? How can that be a statement to be believed if there's no factual evidence to support it? If nothing's in the public domain then what evidence does ANYONE have to say the brand has been damaged? That is a good question and you could argue that any press is good press, but in the current world I work in I know how damaging conjecture can be and my firm is the victim of it's fair share of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, nbupperthongowl said: Actually it is..... doesn't matter what you ask for, the evidence is the quotes, Still waiting for your examples to prove the contrary NOTHING I WILL WAIT Oh dear... You do realise everyone else can read this thread right? Here's how it's gone so far 1) Man 1 makes statement on forum about how SWFC's brand has been damaged by recent press 2) Man 2 says 'really? I've not seen that. Can you show me an example?' 3) Man 1 then coughs, splutters, collapses into a messy puddle and repeatedly posts designed entirely to distract from the fact he can't give a single solitary example to show hes' not chatting absolute sheeeeeeeeeeeeeiiiiiiite That's it in a nutshell Every post you've made since point number one has been point number 3 on repeat. Address point number 2 and we can then close this nonsense off and move on Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 23 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I'm talking specifically about the current situation that has been posted about Bad press about this current EFL action etc Just thought of another one Kieren Maguirearticle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, soldierboyblue said: That is a good question and you could argue that any press is good press, but in the current world I work in I know how damaging conjecture can be and my firm is the victim of it's fair share of it That's because you'll have experienced real life scenarios I bet you could point to those examples if it was appropriate to do so But in this thread someone's come along and claimed as fact that SWFC's brand has been damaged I'm neutral on it. I've not seen any damage, have no examples I can think of or point to to say it has, so I've asked the lad posting it as fact to educate me so we can all learn and go 'ah yeah I see what you mean mate' That's it pretty much Instead of him going 'yeah mate wednesday's been damaged. for example ... xxxxxxxxxx example' he's blustering and wobbling all over the shop Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, trev said: Nah. Not yet. Maybe after the court case though? Depends what happens I suppose. EFL may have a case to answer from our three operating execs from the time of the original charges for damage to reputation and hurt personal feelings. But that would be civil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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