@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, Etchesketch said: You tell me. Was it bad management or poor results? What do you think? Your inability to link man management skills to poor results is utterly remarkable I'm starting to think I'm getting trolled on this one Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Ronnie Starling said: Pleat signed some very good players. Degryse, Nicol, Stefanovic, Kovacevic, Blinker, Newsome, Carbone & Di Canio. Nicol was past his best Degryse, Kovacevic and Blinker we’re gone in the ***** of an eye. I wouldn’t put Newsome in the very good bracket. The Italians were great footballers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 24 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: The readers can make their own minds up having read what you've been posting to be fair. Why was man management important in this team that ran itself ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 Just now, Sergeant Tibbs said: Why was man management important in this team that ran itself ? So that when things start to (inevitably) go belly up the manager can make sure he can pull things back on track through clever man management and development of players. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Why was man management important in this team that ran itself ? Sometimes good Man management is to let a team run itself and not interfere too much. He did very well at first and then it went wrong. A story repeated hundreds of times in football management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So that when things start to (inevitably) go belly up the manager can make sure he can pull things back on track through clever man management and development of players. So things inevitably go belly up. You should have said that earlier, would have saved us a lot of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: Nicol was past his best Degryse, Kovacevic and Blinker we’re gone in the ***** of an eye. I wouldn’t put Newsome in the very good bracket. The Italians were great footballers. Regardless of his age Nicol played well during his time at Wednesday and Newsome added some steel to the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So that when things start to (inevitably) go belly up the manager can make sure he can pull things back on track through clever man management and development of players. So following the same line every manager who's a good man manager should have a job for life. What SWFC managers would you consider to be good man managers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, toppOwl said: So following the same line every manager who's a good man manager should have a job for life. If they man managed successfully then yes of course Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, upperwinngardensowl said: Sometimes good Man management is to let a team run itself and not interfere too much. He did very well at first and then it went wrong. A story repeated hundreds of times in football management. Sorry mate I was being facetious to our host. I totally agree with your comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: Regardless of his age Nicol played well during his time at Wednesday and Newsome added some steel to the defence. What ever to Newsome’s playing career ? Did he finish with us or elsewhere (I can’t remember) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etchesketch Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 minute ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: What ever to Newsome’s playing career ? Did he finish with us or elsewhere (I can’t remember) Retired through injury with us in 2000, season we left the Premier League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 Trevor had been a boy sensation from being 15 years of age. He was a superstar footballer. I think it made him a bit aloof. Some terrific football for a while there though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Etchesketch said: Retired through injury with us in 2000, season we left the Premier League The 8-0 defeat to Newcastle was his last game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: If they man managed successfully then yes of course Thanks, I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, toppOwl said: The 8-0 defeat to Newcastle was his last game. So it’s all Newsome’s fault. I knew there was a point to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 20, 2020 Author Share Posted May 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Sergeant Tibbs said: So it’s all Newsome’s fault. I knew there was a point to this thread. More than happy to adopt this stance Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: More than happy to adopt this stance Virtual handshakes all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: YES! My point still stands though mate Francis left the club in a way way worse position than the day he took on the managers job Like Wenger at arsenal then Like Jose at Real Madrid then Like Rafa at Newcastle when he got them relegated then It's happened with some of the best managers of the world And its happened here 99% of the time Was Francis perfect, no but we've had a damn lot worse I'd like to live in a world where Sheffield Wednesday finishing 3rd, 7th twice, in Europe and two Cup finals again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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