Guest HillsboroughOwlNI Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John O'Brien said: Me, very very laid back and will correct those who confuse sectarianism with Political. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarianism You sure? Sectarianism and political baiting are one and the same. Edited May 19, 2020 by HillsboroughOwlNI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: I'll take the bait, what was the chant? Wasn’t bait at all, and the Wednesday fans i was with confirmed the chant of “ F the IRA”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, John O'Brien said: Celtic fans Socialists/Labour/SNP Rod Stewart ain't.....and Sean Connery...though he did switch when he fell out with the Celtic ticket office Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, HillsboroughOwlNI said: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectarianism You sure? Sectarianism and political baiting are one and the same. So after reading that it would seem that Political sectarianism is pitting Celtic fan against Celtic fans, is that correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, sherlyegg said: Rod Stewart ain't.....and Sean Connery...though he did switch when he fell out with the Celtic ticket office Correct. Celtic also had a Tory on the Board at one point and there was regular demos to remove him and banner protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Before anyone accuses me of favouring one religion, im Atheist. I renounced my faith a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, John O'Brien said: Wasn’t bait at all, and the Wednesday fans i was with confirmed the chant of “ F the IRA”. Yep but I'd say the same about any Protestant terrorist group. A group who go about/went about killing British subjects isn't going to be popular amongst British people. Most fans who sing it do it as its just another chant, one of many to wind up the opposition, nor is sang by any organised political faction. It's also a chant which is getting heard less and less thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Yep but I'd say the same about any Protestant terrorist group. A group who go about/went about killing British subjects isn't going to be popular amongst British people. Most fans who sing it do it as its just another chant, one of many to wind up the opposition, nor is sang by any organised political faction. It's also a chant which is getting heard less and less thankfully. I’m in total agreement with you and that is Political chanting and not sectarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, John O'Brien said: Before anyone accuses me of favouring one religion, im Atheist. I renounced my faith a long time ago. Some would argue that professing to be an atheist is not the renunciation of faith, just a different kind of it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: Some would argue that professing to be an atheist is not the renunciation of faith, just a different kind of it. Aw ffs, is there no way out for me! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, John O'Brien said: I’m in total agreement with you and that is Political chanting and not sectarian. No its a chant by fans in the main that have very little connection with the troubles and just sing it to wind up other fans mainly Leeds fans. In no way do I say its sang as a political song regarding Wednesday fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: Some would argue that professing to be an atheist is not the renunciation of faith, just a different kind of it. That would be a stupid argument to make and as its obvious that you aren't stupid I know you won't be making such a claim. Unless you're going to disappoint me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: That would be a stupid argument to make and as its obvious that you aren't stupid I know you won't be making such a claim. Unless you're going to disappoint me. It's a well known philosophical debate and depends how you define 'faith' I suppose. But I have no strong views on the matter and was just being an arse to mock one of our very obviously non-sectarian guests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: No its a chant by fans in the main that have very little connection with the troubles and just sing it to wind up other fans mainly Leeds fans. In no way do I say its sang as a political song regarding Wednesday fans. Mate, it’s a Political chant no matter how you dress it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: It's a well known philosophical debate and depends how you define 'faith' I suppose. But I have no strong views on the matter and was just being an arse to mock one of our very obviously non-sectarian guests. And whom would that guest be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 *moving thread to religion section* Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: It's a well known philosophical debate and depends how you define 'faith' I suppose. But I have no strong views on the matter and was just being an arse to mock one of our very obviously non-sectarian guests. Thank God for that It's not even a debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: *moving thread to religion section* "RIGHT - WHO THREW THAT?" Edited May 19, 2020 by DJMortimer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: *moving thread to religion section* Can you tell us where it is, I could do with a good laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John O'Brien Posted May 19, 2020 Share Posted May 19, 2020 Just now, daztheowl said: Can you tell us where it is, I could do with a good laugh. That rules me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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