Carlos doing well in Portugal

[mildatheart67]

Carlos Carvalhal: 'Before this, I hardly even knew I had flowers in my garden'

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/may/12/carlos-carvalhal-before-this-i-hardly-even-knew-i-had-flowers-in-my-garden?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

[sage owl]

I honestly think Chansiri would have him back. 

[sMacLean]

1 hour ago, sage owl said:

I honestly think Chansiri would have him back. 

I expect him to have a 2nd stint with us maybe after Monk.

[BIG D]

5 hours ago, sage owl said:

I honestly think Chansiri would have him back. 

 

He’s not the only one

[agentwalker]

I'd take him back over Monk any day. So long as DC gave him the time to build a team. I think previously he was under the promotion in the next 2 years at any cost rule.

 

 

[Matt_1]

Carlos with a clean slate and a much improved recruitment structure in place? Not a terrible idea in my opnion.

[0wl18]

Carlos was the best we’ve had in my lifetime. The problems IMO were down to poor recruitment in his 2nd and 3rd seasons. 
 

An issue we still have to this day so, you have to ask whether that was purely his fault?

[Stoop]

Shows how bad things are atm that people are wanting CC back 

[Frazzlebeak]

Let it go..................

[Plonk]

On 14/05/2020 at 02:19, Stoop said:

Shows how bad things are atm that people are wanting CC back 

It really does, doesn’t it? In fact it’s that bad I would have Chris Turner, terry yorath or Paul Jewell back

[Plonk]

Just now, Plonk said:

It really does, doesn’t it? In fact it’s that bad I would have Chris Turner, terry yorath or Paul Jewell back

 

Not to mention jack charlton, Howard Wilkinson or big Ron.......not pleat though, rather stick with monk than have that conker back

[Stoop]

CC walked into a near on perfect situation at Wednesday. He inherited a solid team, with an excellent spine, new chairman, huge budget, he also had a fan base with a genuine feel good factor after years of gloom

 

Imo he did a decent job at Wednesday, but not an excellent one. Let’s be honest a top 6 finish with a side including Westwood, Loovens, Lees, Pudil, Wallace,  Bannan, Lee  Hutchinson, Lopez, FF and Hooper is par for the course the championship 

[0wl18]

20 hours ago, Stoop said:

CC walked into a near on perfect situation at Wednesday. He inherited a solid team, with an excellent spine, new chairman, huge budget, he also had a fan base with a genuine feel good factor after years of gloom

 

Imo he did a decent job at Wednesday, but not an excellent one. Let’s be honest a top 6 finish with a side including Westwood, Loovens, Lees, Pudil, Wallace,  Bannan, Lee  Hutchinson, Lopez, FF and Hooper is par for the course the championship 

I’m not sure what you were watching in the 2014/15 season. We improved but, to claim it was a solid team is a little far fetched.

 

It’s easy looking back now and saying you’d expect a top 6 finish with that team. At the time next to nobody expected us to achieve what we did in that first season. The recruitment that first season was phenomenal, Wallace, Pudil, FF, Bannan good solid players. Since then it’s been poor. 
 

Was Roeder the key to our recruitment the first season? I can’t remember when he moved on but, there’s been a drastic change in fortunes with regards to recruitment which could coincide with his exit.

 

Carlos was the best we’ve had for probably 2 decades, it went sour in the end however, we shouldn’t forget what we achieved under him.

[@owlstalk]

40 minutes ago, 0wl18 said:

Carlos was the best we’ve had for probably 2 decades, it went sour in the end however, we shouldn’t forget what we achieved under him.

Or UNDERachieved under him

[Stoop]

3 hours ago, 0wl18 said:

I’m not sure what you were watching in the 2014/15 season. We improved but, to claim it was a solid team is a little far fetched.

 

It’s easy looking back now and saying you’d expect a top 6 finish with that team. At the time next to nobody expected us to achieve what we did in that first season. The recruitment that first season was phenomenal, Wallace, Pudil, FF, Bannan good solid players. Since then it’s been poor. 
 

Was Roeder the key to our recruitment the first season? I can’t remember when he moved on but, there’s been a drastic change in fortunes with regards to recruitment which could coincide with his exit.

 

Carlos was the best we’ve had for probably 2 decades, it went sour in the end however, we shouldn’t forget what we achieved under him.

I stick with it

 

The side that finished 12th had an excellent defensive record and had the excellent spine of Westwood, Loovens, Lees Lee and Hutchinson. All it needed was creativity and firepower, and the additions of Bannan, FF, Wallace, Lopez and Hooper did just that

[Socialist_Owl]

Wow, another piece about CC and his prolonged ache to return to England.

 

And they say reportage is dead?

 

 

[jamsandwich]

two of the best seasons we've had in 20years and people knock him. Not sure what idiots want anymore!

 

Id have him back tomorrow

 

[Socialist_Owl]

3 hours ago, jamsandwich said:

two of the best seasons we've had in 20years and people knock him. Not sure what idiots want anymore!

 

Id have him back tomorrow

 

It beggars belief to think  he could replicate that under our current setup. Or more appropriately, ever again.

 

 

Edited May 17, 2020 by Socialist_Owl

[Bluesteel]

On 13/05/2020 at 10:58, agentwalker said:

I'd take him back over Monk any day. So long as DC gave him the time to build a team. I think previously he was under the promotion in the next 2 years at any cost rule.

 

 

he’s an impact manager not a builder 

[Bluesteel]

On 16/05/2020 at 09:35, 0wl18 said:

I’m not sure what you were watching in the 2014/15 season. We improved but, to claim it was a solid team is a little far fetched.

 

It’s easy looking back now and saying you’d expect a top 6 finish with that team. At the time next to nobody expected us to achieve what we did in that first season. The recruitment that first season was phenomenal, Wallace, Pudil, FF, Bannan good solid players. Since then it’s been poor. 
 

Was Roeder the key to our recruitment the first season? I can’t remember when he moved on but, there’s been a drastic change in fortunes with regards to recruitment which could coincide with his exit.

 

Carlos was the best we’ve had for probably 2 decades, it went sour in the end however, we shouldn’t forget what we achieved under him.

That team is remembered as being better than it was, it was great going forward but soft without the ball. It was meant to be the start and we were arguably a more well rounded side the second season (albeit with a lack of pace, height and a defensive mid which we only just got round to rectifying).