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Just now, scram said:

 

Tbf i said this a while ago

 

The PL decided that it needed to go alone so f*ck the EFL

 

The PL do give one shiny shyte about the rest of the clubs - it doesn't even hit their radar

 

PL, first, last and everything between

 

EFL? Who?

I completely agree with your point. But in the interest of fairness the Premier League and EFL are completely separate.

 

So the EFL should be making it's own plans to return. My point was I think they knew that they could not do so.

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Sorry if anyone mentioned it but i think fairest way is stop season where it is and start next season as handicap points wise. At least what you did this season will count for summat. Doesn't help us but i think best solution

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This is The Athletic's Bundesliga's expert on the return

 

the Bundesliga’s rush back to the pitch is motivated by money. Unlike the clubs in the Premier League, they hadn’t all been paid up for the rest of the season and without that last part of the TV rights payment (€300m) up to a third of the 36 professional clubs would have faced severe financial difficulties before too long. But the backdrop to the government’s permission is also the gradual reopening of the economy, coupled with a stark realisation: COVID-19 will continue to pose problems for all of society for many more months to come. In March, Chancellor Angela Merkel warned that “60 to 70 per cent” of Germans could get infected before the development of a vaccine and that the crisis could last two years.

 

The return of the Bundesliga, a non-essential activity played out in sterile environs of the so-called ghost games, will look hasty and reckless to many. Players are rightly concerned, organised fans at best ambiguous.

 

But there is no material prospect of the situation changing anytime before the end of the year. The same uneasy questions the league is grappling with now — the safety of players, the right protocol for testing and quarantine — will dominate the debate in all walks of life until there is a medical breakthrough. If professional football is to survive in the meantime, in Germany and elsewhere, it’ll have to strike a way to balance risks and necessities just like everybody else. Playing football under these conditions will remain a difficult prospect, even with effective mass testing in place, to be sure. The rest of the world will have the benefit of being able to learn from the Bundesliga’s successes and failings but they shouldn’t expect clear-cut answers.

 

Watching games without fans and (genuine) noise will put our love for the game under considerable strain, in the meantime. Will it be possible as a viewer to zoom past the empty stands onto action on the pitch or will the prevailing emptiness swallow up the game as a whole?

 

Whatever clubs will or won’t do to mitigate the drabness, it’ll look unfamiliar and strange. Before too long, however, every professional club in the world will have to think along the same lines. And it won’t make any difference whether you count the games taking place as this season or the next.

 

The Bundesliga will provide an early snapshot of what this all will look like, with all its contradictions, moral compromises and unsatisfactory optics. It won’t be football as we know it. But that’s how it’s going to be.

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10 hours ago, the third man said:

Contracts finish on the 30th June, whether they get paid after that date is irrelevant, they do not need to play after that date

Wonder how many of our out of contract players, have clubs and guaranteed wages lined up for after 30th June. Especially with the situation as it now.

 

Pretty sure the ones we needed, to finish another 9 nine games, would except a 2-3 month extension on their current deal.

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Mcguigan said:

Wonder how many of our out of contract players, have clubs and guaranteed wages lined up for after 30th June. Especially with the situation as it now.

 

Pretty sure the ones we needed, to finish another 9 nine games, would except a 2-3 month extension on their current deal.

 

 

 

The thing with that is, what happens if they get a bad injury during that 2 months and that stops them from getting another club?

I'm sure both the players and their agents will be thinking of that possibility.

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47 minutes ago, Mcguigan said:

Wonder how many of our out of contract players, have clubs and guaranteed wages lined up for after 30th June. Especially with the situation as it now.

 

Pretty sure the ones we needed, to finish another 9 nine games, would except a 2-3 month extension on their current deal.

 

 

Suspect that a lot of the wages conversations earlier in the year with potential new clubs have suddenly gone quiet and are very non-committal. 

 

The question is do the players want to risk getting injured for a few weeks work

 

Apart from the very top players in this league

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What the league don't seem to think about is the crowds that will gather outside the stadiums of the clubs promoted. Remember when psg tired to play behind closed doors.

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10 hours ago, kobayashi said:

You're right, you could be wrong. Self isolation rules apply if you or a family member exhibits symptoms not if a colleague or anyone else that you may have had contact with has symptoms. 

Again, for us, if a colleague gets it we have to self isolate

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1 hour ago, Mcguigan said:

Wonder how many of our out of contract players, have clubs and guaranteed wages lined up for after 30th June. Especially with the situation as it now.

 

Pretty sure the ones we needed, to finish another 9 nine games, would except a 2-3 month extension on their current deal.

 

 

On how much money?

 

if someone wanted me to work on a short term contract I would ask for at least double money to cover me if I get injured

 

so it could cost a fortune

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7 hours ago, Thurcroft owl 72 said:

Sorry if anyone mentioned it but i think fairest way is stop season where it is and start next season as handicap points wise. At least what you did this season will count for summat. Doesn't help us but i think best solution


Over complicated.

 

Finish it now. Points per game. 

 

Then set their minds to 20/21, because I think we all under-estimate how difficult it’s going to be for next season to start, and certainly won’t start early August.

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1 hour ago, Holmowl said:


Over complicated.

 

Finish it now. Points per game. 

 

Then set their minds to 20/21, because I think we all under-estimate how difficult it’s going to be for next season to start, and certainly won’t start early August.

Points per game does not take teams like us into consideration, teams that have crashed this year

 

there is a case for a relegated team to say look at Wednesday, they could have gone down in place of us

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I think if the season can't be finished safely, which is unlikely, this  season should be scrapped. Forget about it, no promotion or relegation, go again and start next season later in the year.

 

The only clubs affected by this would be the ones currently in the automatic promotion places i.e. West Brom, Leeds, the 2 in League 1 and 3 in League 2.

Yes it would be hard on them but they're not guaranteed promotion.

 

If any of the other barmy ideas touted for settling the final positions if the season is voided such as  average PPG, points after 23 games or as it is now are used it will be carnage.

 

Half of the teams in each division will be upset and it will leave the EFL facing the prospect of a tsunami of legal action.

 

The Peterborough chairman has had his say.

 

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11 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said:

I think if the season can't be finished safely, which is unlikely, this  season should be scrapped. Forget about it, no promotion or relegation, go again and start next season later in the year.

 

The only clubs affected by this would be the ones currently in the automatic promotion places i.e. West Brom, Leeds, the 2 in League 1 and 3 in League 2.

Yes it would be hard on them but they're not guaranteed promotion.

 

If any of the other barmy ideas touted for settling the final positions if the season is voided such as  average PPG, points after 23 games or as it is now are used it will be carnage.

 

Half of the teams in each division will be upset and it will leave the EFL facing the prospect of a tsunami of legal action.

 

The Peterborough chairman has had his say.

 

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From what I gather Peterborough want to play on. They don't want to void the League. So it isn't only WBA, Leeds etc who would be miffed by that. 

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10 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said:

I think if the season can't be finished safely, which is unlikely, this  season should be scrapped. Forget about it, no promotion or relegation, go again and start next season later in the year.

 

The only clubs affected by this would be the ones currently in the automatic promotion places i.e. West Brom, Leeds, the 2 in League 1 and 3 in League 2.

Yes it would be hard on them but they're not guaranteed promotion.

 

If any of the other barmy ideas touted for settling the final positions if the season is voided such as  average PPG, points after 23 games or as it is now are used it will be carnage.

 

Half of the teams in each division will be upset and it will leave the EFL facing the prospect of a tsunami of legal action.

 

The Peterborough chairman has had his say.

 

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Which is all very valid, where is recent form reflected in PPG... which btw does us a massive favour as it isn't part of the calculations

 

Duckworth Lewis type algorithm is needed to do this property to take into account playing the current bottom and top teams, form etc

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Apparently the National League are seriously considering ending the season at the half way point. 

garymegson

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2 hours ago, OwlsItGoing said:

What the league don't seem to think about is the crowds that will gather outside the stadiums of the clubs promoted. Remember when psg tired to play behind closed doors.

Then the army, cops need to hose and batter the [email protected] they did the miners.🙄

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22 minutes ago, rickygoo said:

From what I gather Peterborough want to play on. They don't want to void the League. So it isn't only WBA, Leeds etc who would be miffed by that. 

 

They're 4th and 2 points behind Rotherham in 2nd so probably think they have a good chance of making automatic promotion.

 

What he's saying is if the league is voided now and promotion is decided on the positions as at now or an average of points per game, they will not accept that.

 

Neither will any team who still think they might make the autos or a team currently outside the play off positions who have a chance of making them. There's also the teams in the relegation places.

 

That's going to be half of the division miffed .

 

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Posted (edited)

Not happening

Edited by BIG D

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Sorry can't seem to edit my last post.

 

Peterborough are in 6th, 3 points behind Rotherham in 2nd.

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Decide it on penalties, 5 players with one reserve in each team.

Only 7 people can travel per team. 6 players and the manager.

Teams can complete 2 fixtures per day if practical.

Not fair!

True, but nothings fair at the mo

 

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