Vic Flange Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Tommy Crawshaw said: We don't know but I'd hazard a guess that Bruce wouldn't have had any problems with so called 'Billy big times'. It really does my head in all this this nonsense about players labelled 'bad apples'. You think we are unique in that we don't have any? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashley8 Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Abject failure unfortunately says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helmut_rooster Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 5 hours ago, DSandersonOWL said: Shameful, ridiculous and an insult to supporters that he is still there!!!! Hope to be proved wrong as we <ramp up> to the Premiership.. What's the fiddlesticks is this gash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghowl Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 Monk has a worse win % than Jos Luhukay. If his contract is up the club would be mental not to look at other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchyouaround Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I have no doubt that Monk, has the hunger and passion to be successful. However he doesn't seem to have all the tools required to achieve it. Some of his decisions have been baffling to say the least. Maybe its time to start looking to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Crawshaw Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Vic Flange said: You think we are unique in that we don't have any? No I don't think we're unique because I don't think every club has 'billy big time' troublemakers. I probably know who you are going to say but I'll ask anyway. Who are these players and exactly what have they done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Disappointing. Thought it would have been higher for out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Sorry Garry it's a no from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Depends who's available to replace him .....If we could get McCarthy then out if it's someone like grayson,Coleman,mclaren or some obscure foreign coach on paxos radar think I'd be sticking with monk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakewell Owl Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 15 hours ago, everydays_wednesday said: Another option should be "shake it all about". beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Plonk said: Disappointing. Thought it would have been higher for out. Think you have to allow for a small sad percentage of the unclean who come on here to amuse themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakewell Owl Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 What have we become, after 20 years of gash or semi gash, we are knee jerking again, you have to let a manager have his own backroom staff ,a proper preparation period (pre season) and at least some of his own players i am firmly behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 Out I’m afraid It’s a shame because he was doing well and I was behind him, the run of results since Christmas though is unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamthesun Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) Essentially this team had promotion form at the back end of last season. This team had promotion form for the first half of this season. The longer he’s been here and the more he’s been able to exert his influence the worse we’ve performed. no brainier. Get him out. Edited May 6, 2020 by jamthesun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Blue and white said: Think you have to allow for a small sad percentage of the unclean who come on here to amuse themselves. No, some just think that he deserves a chance to pick his own players and spend money on who he thinks is a good fit for us...I bet even fergie couldn't polish a turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickswfc Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 18 hours ago, bradowl said: Right at this moment I feel it's not important. You reckon? Thanks for pointing out the exact same thing used to downplay any discussion at anything that isn't coronavirus (or worse). I'll just go back to sitting in a quiet room. We shouldn't talk about anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Harrysgame said: No, some just think that he deserves a chance to pick his own players and spend money on who he thinks is a good fit for us...I bet even fergie couldn't polish a turd. Though I never wanted Monk, I also don’t want more upheaval, so for me it would be better if things worked out However, there are no signs that it is working out, in fact all my fears I had when he was appointed are starting come to the fore. Steady results as he was getting to know the players, then as he started to do things his way, a complete collapse in form Since then, he has shown his tactical limitations, and more importantly, a complete lack of man management skills. Its possible he may fare better with his own staff and players, but you would at least be wanting to see some signs that, that might be the case. Things won’t change, he won’t get a completely free hand when it comes to recruitment, no recent manager ever has, so for that reason, I’d like a manager who can work with what he is given. Gary Monk is not that man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickswfc Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) Even without the Westwood/Hutchinson situation and the financial situation - Monk has still - - made baffling, rash team selections - continuously playing Pelupessy, starting with 4 attackers (three of which new signings) - spoken borderline incoherantly in his interviews - hung the players out to dry (a card you can only really play once) quite early in his reign As fans we can only judge on what we can see, and for me the excuse of "we don't know whats gone off" isn't enough for him to be judged significantly less than any other managers. Edited May 6, 2020 by nickswfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 I think he needs time. Partly because I think the players are more to blame than him and partly because I don’t think we’d be able to attract a better manager to the club at the moment given the current FFP related mess we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted May 6, 2020 Share Posted May 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, TrickyTrev said: I think he needs time. Partly because I think the players are more to blame than him and partly because I don’t think we’d be able to attract a better manager to the club at the moment given the current FFP related mess we are in. Name any other manager who has seen two 5-0 defeats and other complete surrenders such as Derby and flipping Reading in 2020 alone. Name another team that give you so little confidence defending a lead in the final minutes. The buck stops with the manager Im afraid. He has tried the throw players under bus approach and it failed. His team selections and subs are those of someone who has lost it. He has to go now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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