soldierboyblue Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 18 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Because the tv money has been paid for this season and that drives it. There was talk of hibernating the game and it’s finances for a period of time Sky have already said they don't want the money back for this season. One season currently in progress disrupted or roll it over into as yet an undamaged season? I know which will be the preferred option for the business people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, the third man said: They will just knock it off next seasons payments, and if that cant be agreed they will just ask for it back, Sky are not going to throw £762 million ponds away, they are not that generous, especially as their income will most likely have dropped as people have suspended their Sky Sports payments It's not £762 million though it amounts to less than half of that if you read the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Essix Blue said: Sky will have lost loads from advertisers Forgot about that, another reason for them not giving the money away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, soldierboyblue said: It's not £762 million though it amounts to less than half of that if you read the article Still a lot of money to throw away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beswetherick Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Promoting teams when the season is incomplete is absolute madness. I’m no lawyer but surely the EFL would be leaving themselves wide open to legal action from every other club who could mathematically win promotion. The point someone made about Bury is a really interesting one as well. Voiding the season is the least worst option. It should (in theory) also allow the authorities a bit of breathing space to decide what to do with the Euros, World Cup, player contracts, etc. rather than spending so much time trying to come up with a way of finishing this season when there’s a solution already available. We’re in the middle of a global pandemic — football really isn’t important in the grand scheme of things. It takes as long as it takes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, the third man said: Still a lot of money to throw away It won't be thrown away - they would be granted more live games etc next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldierboyblue Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, beswetherick said: Promoting teams when the season is incomplete is absolute madness. I’m no lawyer but surely the EFL would be leaving themselves wide open to legal action from every other club who could mathematically win promotion. The point someone made about Bury is a really interesting one as well. Voiding the season is the least worst option. It should (in theory) also allow the authorities a bit of breathing space to decide what to do with the Euros, World Cup, player contracts, etc. rather than spending so much time trying to come up with a way of finishing this season when there’s a solution already available. We’re in the middle of a global pandemic — football really isn’t important in the grand scheme of things. It takes as long as it takes Look at France, Holland and potentially Spain - all cancelled their seasons and voided the season. This as you say would draw a line under this issue and allow a more informed decision of how football progresses in the future. Another huge factor in this is if the players want to play in the current climate and from reading Aguero's comments yesterday that is a big NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said: Look at France, Holland and potentially Spain - all cancelled their seasons and voided the season. This as you say would draw a line under this issue and allow a more informed decision of how football progresses in the future. Another huge factor in this is if the players want to play in the current climate and from reading Aguero's comments yesterday that is a big NO. They haven’t voided their season. They’ve awarded titles etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 There's about 6 teams who have been in third place this season including us. Promoting the team that was third at the arbitrary time when the roulette wheel stopped is not a fair sporting solution. It's just dumb luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 I would pick the season up again when we’re ready - finish the season, then have a 2/4 week break and then start the new season To allow for transfers All games to be honoured by current players at the time that games were called off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Nero said: There's about 6 teams who have been in third place this season including us. Promoting the team that was third at the arbitrary time when the roulette wheel stopped is not a fair sporting solution. It's just dumb luck. You could argue same for 1st and 2nd places, in L1 and 2 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essix Blue Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, TodwickOwl said: I would pick the season up again when we’re ready - finish the season, then have a 2/4 week break and then start the new season To allow for transfers All games to be honoured by current players at the time that games were called off. You can’t force out of contract players to continue playing for their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, beswetherick said: Promoting teams when the season is incomplete is absolute madness. I’m no lawyer but surely the EFL would be leaving themselves wide open to legal action from every other club who could mathematically win promotion. The point someone made about Bury is a really interesting one as well. There are so many teams that could either get promotion, of or not get relegated, that there would be legal challengers and if it went to a vote of all the clubs, the only clubs who would want the teams in the promotion places to be promoted will be the ones in those places, so that's 11 out of 72, cant see that vote going through, if only because there are 9 teams in the relegation places and a lot more who could potentially be promoted who will vote against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 (edited) I'm for scrapping this year as it's only fair 'force majure' legal and moral option. Start next season in December if safe. 23 game season as per Vulva, pot luck home and away but with an expanded 8 team home and away play off at the end for a fairer shorter season. That's a max of 30 games. Edited May 1, 2020 by Nero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TodwickOwl Posted May 1, 2020 Author Share Posted May 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: You can’t force out of contract players to continue playing for their team. I wouldn’t force - I’d ask them if they will honour the last 12 games as they have been paid the wages for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said: I would pick the season up again when we’re ready - finish the season, then have a 2/4 week break and then start the new season To allow for transfers All games to be honoured by current players at the time that games were called off. Wont happen, you cant force teams to continue to pay players who are out of contract and you cant force players to play for a team if they don't want to and if they wanted to stay short term, they could negotiate very favourable terms if the teams needed them, we have 10 players or so out of contract, how could we play games without them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Essix Blue said: They haven’t voided their season. They’ve awarded titles etc The Dutch voided their season - the Belgians and French awarded titles. The Spanish like us, the Germans and the Italians are hoping to complete, probably in vain obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the third man Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, TodwickOwl said: I wouldn’t force - I’d ask them if they will honour the last 12 games as they have been paid the wages for it. they don't get paid per game, they get paid for the length of a contract, so they haven't been paid for any game that doesn't get played, just paid for the length of the contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 The problem with the players contracts is that some owners won't or can't pay a month on top of the end of contract date. Some players will be let go. Some have new clubs. You pick up one thread and it all unravels. What if they get seriously ill or injured in the extra month and it goes on beyond July. Compo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt68owls Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 if the season is finished behind closed doors (which it shouldn't be) it will make a real mess of FFP. I wonder how they would work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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