Jump to content

Recommended Posts

4 hours ago, soldierboyblue said:

If certain fan groups had their way we would have had Ken Bates at the club - followed by administration and lots of local businesses not getting paid. 

 

Or Geoff Sheard

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said:

We was a few hours from going bust not so long ago I'd say that's worse than poor old Newcastle moaning 

Yes but it's not a competition

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, soldierboyblue said:

If certain fan groups had their way we would have had Ken Bates at the club - followed by administration and lots of local businesses not getting paid. 

I'm not pro Bates and think he is a horrible littletwat but let's look where Leeds are compared to us, light years ahead.

Sometimes you need that unpopular figure that knows business inside out to takes things forward and Mike Ashley fits that bill.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Blue and white said:

I'm not pro Bates and think he is a horrible littletwat but let's look where Leeds are compared to us, light years ahead.

Sometimes you need that unpopular figure that knows business inside out to takes things forward and Mike Ashley fits that bill.

So it would have been ok for you,if swfc had called in the administrators prior to kick off,of the last game of the season like he did ?

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
22 minutes ago, BARMYARMY2010 said:

So it would have been ok for you,if swfc had called in the administrators prior to kick off,of the last game of the season like he did ?

 

Sometimes you have to play dirty in football, its a business to owners but do it the right way and not let little local businesses who put money in suffer. 

 

Btw Ken bates is a conker

 

No I didn't say conker, I said c u n t

Edited by TINKERBELL
  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
34 minutes ago, TINKERBELL said:

Sometimes you have to play dirty in football, its a business to owners but do it the right way and not let little local businesses who put money in suffer. 

 

Btw Ken bates is a conker

 

No I didn't say conker, I said c u n t

So let’s get this right - hundreds on here are castigating Chansiri for his running of the club but would have accepted administration! 
 

I give up I fcuking do

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 hours ago, Swiss Toni said:


Not sure we are in the same bracket as Coventry or Bury. As fans we think we’ve had it bad but they’ve had it much worse.


If we carry on being ran the way we are things could become very bad for us. 

  • Haha 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, BARMYARMY2010 said:

So it would have been ok for you,if swfc had called in the administrators prior to kick off,of the last game of the season like he did ?

 

Leeds were already relegated when he did that and was a business masterstroke when he did it.

  • Haha 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
On 21/05/2020 at 16:50, asteener1867 said:

Whatever..its going to be up to DC...he "nearly" walked once....he might just have had enough.

Ashley???...f.ook me its like the choice Wednesday fans have had for nigh on 2 decades now.

Van Aken or Abdi?

Emmanuelson or a f.ookin' ballboy....the bloody ballboy spends more time on the pitch...1 appearance Urby...20 f.ookin' minutes .stealing a wage for months

abdi...less said the better...van aken...

Now its Delphjon or Ashley

DC..means well yadayadayada...You simply cannot carry on doing it...Mistake after mistake...followed by "Iffy" goings on...Its worrying...The prices...f.ookin' barmy, the anniversary, the kit, that bloody boss eyed Owl FFS!.

Now we got Geordies telling us whats best for us...No offence mate.. and I admire the passion of Newcastle fans..proper club, proper fans....

Have 20 years of what WE have had mate..not the odd relegation...but years wallowing in the lower leagues...odd spark of sunshine?..promoted to a division below where we think we should be...Take 2 decades of it...Still 50'000 piling into St James'....?

I very much doubt it.

Wednesday fans pay the highest second tier prices in Europe...and we watch a circus...and for 20 years over 20 odd thousand have tipped up to watch it....Its blind loyalty bordering on stupidity...I don't doubt Geordie fans are the same...but you lads have been through nowt like it.

Warning us about Mike Ashley is like tryin' to shove 2lbs of butter up a sparrows ar*e with a red hot needle...

Nowt frightens us anymore...We are numb...

I sit at hillsborough and suddenly look around and think "How in the name of f.ook did I get here!!??"...sheer habit and hope..

So Mr Ashley...tip up an' shout "Boooo" at me...I won't f.ookin' flinch...

 

In pretty much every post in this thread that I have written I have stated that it is not my place to say what you as fans of Sheffield Wednesday should or shouldn’t accept. It is not my place to say that, it’s not my place to say that to any set of fans of any club.

Right now me and my fellow supporters are being told by outsiders what we should and shouldn’t accept, what we as supporters and citizens of our city should sacrifice, by people who do not know us, understand us, under the sacrifice that they are asking us to make, nor care about us, our club, or our city.

 

In my posts on here I have been very deliberate in saying that it’s not for me to say what you should accept for your club, because that’s a position I and almost all Newcastle fans take and something we have learnt to take because it has been applied to us.

 

Never have I said or will I say that Sheffield Wednesday shouldn’t accept Ashley or any other owner, or the prospect of being promoted or hoping to achieve promotion.

 

The points that I have tried to make about Ashley on here are from first hand experiences as life as a support of a club he’s owned.

All I can say is that Ashley could come into your club and say his aim is to win promotion and have you as a stable Premier League club.

I can understand how many of you if not all of you would jump up at the chance of that. All I’m saying is that when he came into Newcastle he said he wanted us to be finishing in the top 4.

The examples I pointed out in my first post on here were done to show how that was never his ambition and how every action he took was preventing us from achieving, be it from the mangers he appointed, the lack of investment in the playing squad, and even the financial deals which meant that we couldn’t compete even if he had a change of mind.

 

When he bought House of Fraser he stayed that he wanted to save the high street and rerun the company to the top. In reality his real aim was to get his hands on their stock. He bought them for £80m and immediately earned over £100m worth of stock. The big labels clothes he had was immediately transferred to his Cruise/Flannels stores. In came regular SD clothes to HOF, at least the stores he kept open.

The sofa’s and other house hold furniture at HOF was immediately transferred to his Sofa.com business.

Despite saying he wanted to safe HOF many stores were immediately closed, and quite a few others quickly followed. A lot of stores that remain are now a shadow of their former selves, if you go into one of their stores now you’ll see a sharp decrease in quality in the stock on sale, and in the views of former staff members and retail analysts, ‘A deliberate run down in stores’.

 

Everything I have said on here has not been an attempt to say you should or shouldn’t accept Ashley, it has just been a first hand account of how what you are promised will not be delivered.

In the column that I wrote which sparked this thread, I said that Ashley’s ambition would very well start out as wanting promotion and he would be happy if you turned into a yo-yo team. However his ambition is never matched by his actions and his ambition may very well be that for the next club he buys, but I believe his actions would result in a lot less, and as I said in the column, my fear would be that he would turn you into a yo-yo team between the Championship and League One instead.

 

I think it is also important to consider that it’s not just Newcastle fans who have a gripe about him.

If you talk to Rangers fans then many of them would put him in partial blame to situation they find themselves in now, where they have been turned from 1 of two clubs who could win the SPL/SPFL, to a team who has to finish 2nd at best and watch as their bitter rivals ease to each title win.

 

When time comes for Sheffield Wednesday to be taken over again, be that Ashley or anyone else, you will all be asked what you will take and what you expect of your new owner to do with your club and if they would be suitable owners for your club.

It is my belief that this question can only be asked by yourself and your fellow fans, and can only be answered by yourself and your fellow fans. My participation here has never been to interfere in that, my participation has been to give you all information so that when that times comes, and if that prospective owner is Ashley, then you are able to answer those questions with all the information you’d need.

 

TL;DR: I come in peace.

Edited by bigchrisfgb
  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, bigchrisfgb said:

In pretty much every post in this thread that I have written I have stated that it is not my place to say what you as fans of Sheffield Wednesday should or shouldn’t accept. It is not my place to say that, it’s not my place to say that to any set of fans of any club.

Right now me and my fellow supporters are being told by outsiders what we should and shouldn’t accept, what we as supporters and citizens of our city should sacrifice, by people who do not know us, understand us, under the sacrifice that they are asking us to make, nor care about us, our club, or our city.

 

In my posts on here I have been very deliberate in saying that it’s not for me to say what you should accept for your club, because that’s a position I and almost all Newcastle fans take and something we have learnt to take because it has been applied to us.

 

Never have I said or will I say that Sheffield Wednesday shouldn’t accept Ashley or any other owner, or the prospect of being promoted or hoping to achieve promotion.

 

The points that I have tried to make about Ashley on here are from first hand experiences as life as a support of a club he’s owned.

All I can say is that Ashley could come into your club and say his aim is to win promotion and have you as a stable Premier League club.

I can understand how many of you if not all of you would jump up at the chance of that. All I’m saying is that when he came into Newcastle he said he wanted us to be finishing in the top 4.

The examples I pointed out in my first post on here were done to show how that was never his ambition and how every action he took was preventing us from achieving, be it from the mangers he appointed, the lack of investment in the playing squad, and even the financial deals which meant that we couldn’t compete even if he had a change of mind.

 

When he bought House of Fraser he stayed that he wanted to save the high street and rerun the company to the top. In reality his real aim was to get his hands on their stock. He bought them for £80m and immediately earned over £100m worth of stock. The big labels clothes he had was immediately transferred to his Cruise/Flannels stores. In came regular SD clothes to HOF, at least the stores he kept open.

The sofa’s and other house hold furniture at HOF was immediately transferred to his Sofa.com business.

Despite saying he wanted to safe HOF many stores were immediately closed, and quite a few others quickly followed. A lot of stores that remain are now a shadow of their former selves, if you go into one of their stores now you’ll see a sharp decrease in quality in the stock on sale, and in the views of former staff members and retail analysts, ‘A deliberate run down in stores’.

 

Everything I have said on here has not been an attempt to say you should or shouldn’t accept Ashley, it has just been a first hand account of how what you are promised will not be delivered.

In the column that I wrote which sparked this thread, I said that Ashley’s ambition would very well start out as wanting promotion and he would be happy if you turned into a yo-yo team. However his ambition is never matched by his actions and his ambition may very well be that for the next club he buys, but I believe his actions would result in a lot less, and as I said in the column, my fear would be that he would turn you into a yo-yo team between the Championship and League One instead.

 

I think it is also important to consider that it’s not just Newcastle fans who have a gripe about him.

If you talk to Rangers fans then many of them would put him in partial blame to situation they find themselves in now, where they have been turned from 1 of two clubs who could win the SPL/SPFL, to a team who has to finish 2nd at best and watch as their bitter rivals ease to each title win.

 

When time comes for Sheffield Wednesday to be taken over again, be that Ashley or anyone else, you will all be asked what you will take and what you expect of your new owner to do with your club and if they would be suitable owners for your club.

It is my belief that this question can only be asked by yourself and your fellow fans, and can only be answered by yourself and your fellow fans. My participation here has never been to interfere in that, my participation has been to give you all information so that when that times comes, and if that prospective owner is Ashley, then you are able to answer those questions with all the information you’d need.

 

TL;DR: I come in peace.

Mate 

You have every right to say what you think Sheffield Wednesday should or shouldn't do ...its a free country

It bothers me not one bit and I respect the fact that you know shed loads more about Ashley than I do.

The fact I think you may be overlooking is  that we ALREADY are a team that yoyos between the 1st and the Championship and have been for 2 decades. 

 

 

 

Edited by asteener1867

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, the third man said:

 

Just tell him at least we know who our owner is, companies house don't who owns them, and our owner owns the stadium

I have. 

 

But he keeps coming back at me with something about being in the premier League challenging for a place in Europe while we fight for mid-table in the championship

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 hours ago, WalthamOwl said:


If we carry on being ran the way we are things could become very bad for us. 


Same could be said for a number of clubs.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, poite said:

I have. 

 

But he keeps coming back at me with something about being in the premier League challenging for a place in Europe while we fight for mid-table in the championship

Its just little brother following in big brothers footsteps, been their twice, should have been three times

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, asteener1867 said:

Mate 

You have every right to say what you think Sheffield Wednesday should or shouldn't do ...its a free country

It bothers me not one bit and I respect the fact that you know shed loads more about Ashley than I do.

The fact I think you may be overlooking is  that we ALREADY are a team that yoyos between the 1st and the Championship and have been for 2 decades. 

 

 

 

The impression is that Ashley asset strips - well that rules us out. Ageing team, ageing ground (that we no longer own), out of date training facilities.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Blue and white said:

Leeds were already relegated when he did that and was a business masterstroke when he did it.

Yeh,but you'd be all over Chansiri if he were to do it,.................Masterstoke my @ss,cheats way of dealing with things.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, BARMYARMY2010 said:

Yeh,but you'd be all over Chansiri if he were to do it,.................Masterstoke my @ss,cheats way of dealing with things.


cheats way of dealing with things! Exactly what our club is being accused of by the EFL and other teams in this league. 

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, BARMYARMY2010 said:

Yeh,but you'd be all over Chansiri if he were to do it,.................Masterstoke my @ss,cheats way of dealing with things.

So we haven't already cheated and gained feck all advantage.

If we are being totally honest we should have been in administration years ago.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, WalthamOwl said:


cheats way of dealing with things! Exactly what our club is being accused of by the EFL and other teams in this league. 

Woah,hang on a minute,Bates's cheating meant shafting everybody externally,Swfc are not even close to doing that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 minutes ago, BARMYARMY2010 said:

Woah,hang on a minute,Bates's cheating meant shafting everybody externally,Swfc are not even close to doing that.


ah so we are talking about different types of cheating. Get you now. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Blue and white said:

So we haven't already cheated and gained feck all advantage.

If we are being totally honest we should have been in administration years ago.

Explain how "WE" have cheated,that means everybody externally gets shafted.................thats what you called a masterstroke,swfc are not even close to doing that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...