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8 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:




These people don't go for healthy clubs mate


They look at picking off the ones who are in dire straits and turning them around.

Just to remind you that's what Mike Ashley does for a living. 

When House Of Fraser was going out of business he nicked in and bought em out of administration


 

 

I see him more as an opportunist - obviously he is well known for taking on unhealthy businesses when they come up, but I do also reckon he will have his pick to decide which opportunity he takes on next rather than one dropping in his lap and there will be plenty of clubs to pick from

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1 minute ago, Chris Apolon said:

 

I see him more as an opportunist - obviously he is well known for taking on unhealthy businesses when they come up, but I do also reckon he will have his pick to decide which opportunity he takes on next rather than one dropping in his lap and there will be plenty of clubs to pick from


Very true


Be interesting to see what he does.

Even more so if he chooses us!

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On ‎22‎/‎05‎/‎2020 at 12:29, scram said:

 

 

I know exactly what would happen 

 

People would get fed up of finishing around 12th in the premier every year - they'd be pining for an exciting promotion race in the championship or people sayimng the owner had taken as far as he can so he needs to sell up so we can move to the next level

or he could buy us, get us promoted and sell us for £300 million

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11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:


Very true


Be interesting to see what he does.

Even more so if he chooses us!

 

I would love us to follow a model as per my local team exeter city. They were massively financially mismanaged early 2000s but are now majority owned by the trust. Debt wise nowhere near us, and a cup game against man itd basically cleared their debt...

 

But

 

They focus on young players, sell on and reinvest. The likes of ampadu (chelsea), ollie Watkins (brentford), matt grimes (swansea) and Jayden stockley (preston) all developed by exeter (youth or bought young). Funds then reinvested to the operating of the club, maintain finances and develop the academy/training

 

Interestingly, many ex players are then brought into the trust as well as notable famous local people

 

It's a pipe dream and would possibly entail dropping to rise again but its certainly the ownership model I'd love to see.

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7 minutes ago, Chris Apolon said:

 

I would love us to follow a model as per my local team exeter city. They were massively financially mismanaged early 2000s but are now majority owned by the trust. Debt wise nowhere near us, and a cup game against man itd basically cleared their debt...

 

But

 

They focus on young players, sell on and reinvest. The likes of ampadu (chelsea), ollie Watkins (brentford), matt grimes (swansea) and Jayden stockley (preston) all developed by exeter (youth or bought young). Funds then reinvested to the operating of the club, maintain finances and develop the academy/training

 

Interestingly, many ex players are then brought into the trust as well as notable famous local people

 

It's a pipe dream and would possibly entail dropping to rise again but its certainly the ownership model I'd love to see.

It could include dropping to stay there for ever

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1 minute ago, the third man said:

It could include dropping to stay there for ever

 

Would it though? We don't know the ins and outs of the business model. Works in Germany and Exeter could be promoted and run at an operating profit with a far smaller fan base and revenue stream.

 

There is no reason to think that with our average attendance bringing a decent revenue in, added to a larger catchment area than the west country for young players, that a similar model couldn't be extrapolated to a more successful standard.

 

Like I said, pipe dream potentially but wouldn't it make for a better feeling as a supporter if we were successful and ran in this way (big if, I get it!!) 

 

But it's an equally big if being managed at consistent and large losses buying expensive ageing players on large wages with no sell on value?

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On 22/05/2020 at 12:29, scram said:

 

 

I know exactly what would happen 

 

People would get fed up of finishing around 12th in the premier every year - they'd be pining for an exciting promotion race in the championship or people sayimng the owner had taken as far as he can so he needs to sell up so we can move to the next level

The reality is that teams rarely stand still and finish in the same position year after year. What makes sport exciting is that things can change and it’s unpredictable. So it comes in waves and you’re either moving forward or backwards. We basically moved forward every year 2011 to 2017 and now we’re in a backward cycle. The pigs have moved forward rapidly and right now it’s hard to envisage it falling apart and I’m sure some of their fans are going to extrapolate out and imagine champions league football. But reality is they will find top 8 hard to sustain and they’ll do well to stay up every year for the next 5

 

So I guess as a fan we should always want more and want to improve year on year. But from time to time we will regress as it’s the nature of sport

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29 minutes ago, Chris Apolon said:

 

I would love us to follow a model as per my local team exeter city. They were massively financially mismanaged early 2000s but are now majority owned by the trust. Debt wise nowhere near us, and a cup game against man itd basically cleared their debt...

 

But

 

They focus on young players, sell on and reinvest. The likes of ampadu (chelsea), ollie Watkins (brentford), matt grimes (swansea) and Jayden stockley (preston) all developed by exeter (youth or bought young). Funds then reinvested to the operating of the club, maintain finances and develop the academy/training

 

Interestingly, many ex players are then brought into the trust as well as notable famous local people

 

It's a pipe dream and would possibly entail dropping to rise again but its certainly the ownership model I'd love to see.

 

Sheffield Wednesday Fans owning Sheffield Wednesday? A typical day on here would tell you it would never ever work 😱

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2 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said:

 

Sheffield Wednesday Fans owning Sheffield Wednesday? A typical day on here would tell you it would never ever work 😱

 

It might unite the fanbase?

 

Actually what am I saying, it would be mayhem if owlstalk is anything to go by! 

 

Like a primary school disco where one set won't talk to the other set until boom boom boom comes on the turntables

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45 minutes ago, Chris Apolon said:

 

Would it though? We don't know the ins and outs of the business model. Works in Germany and Exeter could be promoted and run at an operating profit with a far smaller fan base and revenue stream.

 

There is no reason to think that with our average attendance bringing a decent revenue in, added to a larger catchment area than the west country for young players, that a similar model couldn't be extrapolated to a more successful standard.

 

Like I said, pipe dream potentially but wouldn't it make for a better feeling as a supporter if we were successful and ran in this way (big if, I get it!!) 

 

But it's an equally big if being managed at consistent and large losses buying expensive ageing players on large wages with no sell on value?

Pipe dream and we will never ever compete as the rest of the clubs will be owned by wealthy individuals/consortium so if you want to watch 3rd division football forever then that ownership model is the way forward. 

 

I however don't and the last time the fans had shares that ended really well at S6 didn't it.

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You just have to look at some of the toxic power hungry people involved with fan groups that had shares in the past to see what a bad idea it would be

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Just now, timrud said:

You just have to look at some of the toxic power hungry people involved with fan groups that had shares in the past to see what a bad idea it would be

If certain fan groups had their way we would have had Ken Bates at the club - followed by administration and lots of local businesses not getting paid. 

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I'd happily take a few relegations 

Parachute payments 

Champions of the championship 

Few premier league midtable finishes 

 

If we was to get sold on to one of the richest people  in the world 

 

Newcastle fans think they've had it bad 

Try been us or Coventry or Bury 

 

Typical moaning self entitled fans 

 

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14 minutes ago, soldierboyblue said:

Pipe dream and we will never ever compete as the rest of the clubs will be owned by wealthy individuals/consortium so if you want to watch 3rd division football forever then that ownership model is the way forward. 

 

I however don't and the last time the fans had shares that ended really well at S6 didn't it.

 

It may well be a pipe dream, I accept that, in my view a bit of a shame that clubs can't compete unless owned by someone with the money to back up mass investment that's all. But that's football I guess.

 

Obviously the likes of Exeter (who do it well) are much much smaller than us too and don't have the same ambitions also

 

What I will say is whilst I agree with the sentiment that the last time it ended badly, as well as the toxicity power hungry statement mentioned elsewhere, you have the same with chairmen across all the leagues so it's a little horses for courses.

 

 

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1 hour ago, the third man said:

or he could buy us, get us promoted and sell us for £300 million


 

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Why are we talking about Ashley? 

 

We already have a wonderful owner who is doing an outstanding job. 

 

That's what my Blades supporting mate said any way 

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22 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said:

I'd happily take a few relegations 

Parachute payments 

Champions of the championship 

Few premier league midtable finishes 

 

If we was to get sold on to one of the richest people  in the world 

 

Newcastle fans think they've had it bad 

Try been us or Coventry or Bury 

 

Typical moaning self entitled fans 

 

Wouldnt say it was self entitled It's just what you are used to isnt it, like Man Untied fans want them to always win the premier league.

 

Take us for example. A bit of money and two back to back playoffs and we are moaning about being mid table.

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4 minutes ago, poite said:

Why are we talking about Ashley? 

 

We already have a wonderful owner who is doing an outstanding job. 

 

That's what my Blades supporting mate said any way 

 

Just tell him at least we know who our owner is, companies house don't who owns them, and our owner owns the stadium

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56 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said:

I'd happily take a few relegations 

Parachute payments 

Champions of the championship 

Few premier league midtable finishes 

 

If we was to get sold on to one of the richest people  in the world 

 

Newcastle fans think they've had it bad 

Try been us or Coventry or Bury 

 

Typical moaning self entitled fans 

 


Not sure we are in the same bracket as Coventry or Bury. As fans we think we’ve had it bad but they’ve had it much worse.

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3 hours ago, Swiss Toni said:


Not sure we are in the same bracket as Coventry or Bury. As fans we think we’ve had it bad but they’ve had it much worse.

We was a few hours from going bust not so long ago I'd say that's worse than poor old Newcastle moaning 

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