Guest Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 hours ago, pazowl55 said: When has he had the opportunity?. Many teams come down with the same premier league squads that Newcastle have. Not all go back up. Not many come down and maintain a mid-table Premier League budget. Newcastle had by far the biggest ever Championship wage bill the last time Ashley managed to get them relegated to this level and had the advantage of being able to bank roll Rafa Benitez to stay on as manager. Not sure we will ever get to a position to do anything like that. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-announce-huge-909m-14675427 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Not many come down and maintain a mid-table Premier League budget. Newcastle had by far the biggest ever Championship wage bill the last time Ashley managed to get them relegated to this level and had the advantage of being able to bank roll Rafa Benitez to stay on as manager. Not sure we will ever get to a position to do anything like that. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-announce-huge-909m-14675427 they got exactly the same amount as Villa and norwich - and only £9m more than QPR None of them went up that season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I'd boo him every time I saw him. That's how I roll 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 16 minutes ago, Grandad said: OK so youre voting to retain the current position? Enjoy your football If the alternative is to have someone take over who has made football performance significantly worse than it was prior to him getting involved? Enjoy your football! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 (edited) People saying Ashley would be terrible as he’s not used to owning a club with our amount of debts. I’d be amazed if a businessman with his experience would purchase a club with our Debts without a strategy to sort us out. He’s run Newcastle the best way he can to make them a success, he won’t use the same blueprint for us as we are a completely different scenario. He will have plans to run us to make us a success so he can make money from selling us Edited April 29, 2020 by Owls-Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Mid table in the PL every year? Na f**k that, it’s a no from me 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Grandad said: they got exactly the same amount as Villa and norwich - and only £9m more than QPR None of them went up that season They got the same amount of parachute payments but their spending was higher, they spent more than half the clubs in the PL that season. They could afford to do so because Ashley had sat on income for years that he could have used to keep them in around the top 6 - where they were before he took over. In case you hadn't noticed, we aren't in a position to pay someone like Rafa Benitez to get us promoted, regardless of who could take over the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southportdc Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, Owls-Fan said: I’m confused about what your issue with Ashley would be. It seems you are saying he wouldn’t be a suitable owner for us as he has no experience owning a football club with our amount of debt in the championship? Thats a very specific type of owner you are looking for? I wasn't stating an issue with Ashley. I was stating an issue with the logic in the original post. The original post said he knows how to get teams out of this league as a positive for him owning us. There's no evidence he knows how to get teams like us out of this league. Both his promotions were off the back of parachute payments and PL-quality players. Last time they were in this league they paid wages of £112m and lost £90m in one year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: If the alternative is to have someone take over who has made football performance significantly worse than it was prior to him getting involved? Enjoy your football! we are 5 places behind where we were when Chansiri arrived, spent £150m, had 2 transfer embargoes and face a huge points deduction that could see us relegated. You'd rather that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 14 minutes ago, Grandad said: I hear you. And agree. But out of the 2 - who would you prefer? Neither would be a positive so Im spoiling my vote 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, Grandad said: they got exactly the same amount as Villa and norwich - and only £9m more than QPR None of them went up that season Neither of them sold players for 50million except Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: They got the same amount of parachute payments but their spending was higher, they spent more than half the clubs in the PL that season. They could afford to do so because Ashley had sat on income for years that he could have used to keep them in around the top 6 - where they were before he took over. You mean - he turned them into a profitable club that made a profit every season in the Premier League - rather than making a massive huge loss and going backwards. He ran them like a business should be run. Yeah I'd much rather have some idiot burining the equivalent of £66 A MINUTE 24 hours a day for an entire year - to take us backwards. Much rather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 I’d rather have Kim Jong Un 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, southportdc said: I wasn't stating an issue with Ashley. I was stating an issue with the logic in the original post. The original post said he knows how to get teams out of this league as a positive for him owning us. There's no evidence he knows how to get teams like us out of this league. Both his promotions were off the back of parachute payments and PL-quality players. Last time they were in this league they paid wages of £112m and lost £90m in one year. Ok fair enough, but I think when taking a punt on a new owner then Ashley has more experience owning a Football club in England than some foreign businessmen we might get who hasn’t owned a club before (not specifically Chansiri). Anyway this wont be happening anyway haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Grandad said: we are 5 places behind where we were when Chansiri arrived, spent £150m, had 2 transfer embargoes and face a huge points deduction that could see us relegated. You'd rather that? You are not comparing like with like. Ashley has taken Newcastle backwards compared with the same timescale prior to his involvement. Prior to Chansiri getting involved with us we had spells in the 3rd division and were on the verge of administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 He’s a bit of a whopper but the Newcastle fans need to give their head a wobble. They seem to think they have a divine right to be challenging for trophies every year when they haven’t won owt since the 60’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: You mean - he turned them into a profitable club that made a profit every season in the Premier League - rather than making a massive huge loss and going backwards. He ran them like a business should be run. Yeah I'd much rather have some idiot burining the equivalent of £66 A MINUTE 24 hours a day for an entire year - to take us backwards. Much rather. Newcastle were consistently a top half PL club before Ashley got involved and as such were never in any danger financially. Since he got involved PL TV income has gone through the roof, Newcastle have had good income and he has got them relegated twice and regards not getting relegated as a good result. He has took the club backwards in terms of football performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Prior to Chansiri getting involved with us we had spells in the 3rd division and were on the verge of administration. And then all of our finances got sorted by Milan and he had a significantly better foundation than any Chairman in the last 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grandad Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 Just now, hirstyboywonder said: Newcastle were consistently a top half PL club before Ashley got involved and as such were never in any danger financially. Since he got involved PL TV income has gone through the roof, Newcastle have had good income and he has got them relegated twice and regards not getting relegated as a good result. He has took the club backwards in terms of football performance. OK. So youre a Chansiri man Enjoy your football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted April 29, 2020 Share Posted April 29, 2020 At least we'd get sondico back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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