daveyboy66 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I think so mate - don't think ground/stadium upgrades count towards this FFP thing? Great, one billion for the ground should be able to siphon off 300 million for players 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 23, 2020 Author Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, daveyboy66 said: Great, one billion for the ground should be able to siphon off 300 million for players I like your thinking Come on Chairman get it done! Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_77 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 (edited) A new stadium would want to be close to the M1, near Meadowhall (puts tin hat on) lots of redevelopment going on down there with good access links. The New York stadium and Bramall Lane have good corporate suites and function rooms making money from a host of non football events such as property auctions and networking events to name a few with the reason being modern facilities and centrally based. Hillsborough offers outdated facilities and is 4 miles out of town towards the sticks. The right sort venue down near Meadowhall could also take business from the arena. Edited April 23, 2020 by Mac_77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewswfc Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, Mac_77 said: A new stadium would want to be close to the M1, near Meadowhall (puts tin hat on) lots of redevelopment going on down there with good access links. The New York stadium and Bramall Lane have good corporate suites and function rooms making money from a host of non football events such as property auctions and networking events to name a few with the reason being modern facilities and centrally based. Hillsborough offers outdated facilities and is 4 miles out of town towards the sticks. The right sort venue down near Meadowhall could also take business from the arena. Meadowhell is further from town than hillsborough.....and where are you going for a pint before and after match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Build it off J35. Plenty of space for redevelopment. Plenty of pubs in Chapeltown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I post this a lot but it would be terrible if located out of Sheffield (Meadowhall) Neepsend is the best area for me. Near Hillsborough, near Kelham Island, closer to the city, next to a train line, near the tram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Grez Bez said: I post this a lot but it would be terrible if located out of Sheffield (Meadowhall) Neepsend is the best area for me. Near Hillsborough, near Kelham Island, closer to the city, next to a train line, near the tram. To far from Rotherham. The site of the old pit at Silverwood would be ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Hillsborough at the moment is just a money pit .The ground makes very little revenue from events other than matches and the running costs are expensive, also why does everyone expect that if we were to move it would be a bowl that was built? If we employed a decent architect I'm sure we could come up with something a little different also as people have said Hillsborough is great if you live in the area but can be akward to get to if not at the parking around the ground is awful and getting worse when the new supermarket is opened, meadowhall would be an option to move to for the transport links and would allow the club to build facilities around the ground aswell such as a bar for the fans and proper club shop and ticket office and different spaces which could be hired out to people like astroturf pitches and the bar on non matchdays plus a hotel for corporate events. Or you move somewhere like where there building the gulliver's kingdom park as you would still get the transport links for m1 and there is still a lot of land in the area that can be built on and it would also have bars and pubs in the area that people could use pre match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, westy365owl said: Hillsborough at the moment is just a money pit .The ground makes very little revenue from events other than matches and the running costs are expensive, also why does everyone expect that if we were to move it would be a bowl that was built? If we employed a decent architect I'm sure we could come up with something a little different also as people have said Hillsborough is great if you live in the area but can be akward to get to if not at the parking around the ground is awful and getting worse when the new supermarket is opened, meadowhall would be an option to move to for the transport links and would allow the club to build facilities around the ground aswell such as a bar for the fans and proper club shop and ticket office and different spaces which could be hired out to people like astroturf pitches and the bar on non matchdays plus a hotel for corporate events. Or you move somewhere like where there building the gulliver's kingdom park as you would still get the transport links for m1 and there is still a lot of land in the area that can be built on and it would also have bars and pubs in the area that people could use pre match Please feel free to back up your statement with some numbers. Been asking for this for years. Perhaps you'll be the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geedee Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, torryowl said: That's down to the fans not the stadium ....the brighton game the place was absolutely rocking . I think the problem is not so much with the fans that go but the fact that Hillsborough was designed for gates of at least 30k its just too big a ground for 23k, there is and only will be one solution.... we need Premier League Football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, Sham67 said: Please feel free to back up your statement with some numbers. Been asking for this for years. Perhaps you'll be the first. In what regards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, westy365owl said: In what regards? That the ground is a money pit. Feel free to compare and contrast the running costs with more modern stadia. Facts only, not really interested in unsubstantiated opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, Sham67 said: That the ground is a money pit. Feel free to compare and contrast the running costs with more modern stadia. Facts only, not really interested in unsubstantiated opinions. Just common sense is needed in regards running cost but to appease you try and find you the numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Dagmeister's Shadow said: I think it's both personally. Many grounds feel more enclosed and tight to the pitch helping the fans create an intimidating atmosphere for the opposition. I think it's always been harder at Hillsborough due to size and relative openness. It can be done... Brighton, and especially Kaiserslautern but it seems harder to achieve than at some grounds. Filling in the corners would help immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 22 minutes ago, westy365owl said: Hillsborough at the moment is just a money pit .The ground makes very little revenue from events other than matches and the running costs are expensive, also why does everyone expect that if we were to move it would be a bowl that was built? If we employed a decent architect I'm sure we could come up with something a little different also as people have said Hillsborough is great if you live in the area but can be akward to get to if not at the parking around the ground is awful and getting worse when the new supermarket is opened, meadowhall would be an option to move to for the transport links and would allow the club to build facilities around the ground aswell such as a bar for the fans and proper club shop and ticket office and different spaces which could be hired out to people like astroturf pitches and the bar on non matchdays plus a hotel for corporate events. Or you move somewhere like where there building the gulliver's kingdom park as you would still get the transport links for m1 and there is still a lot of land in the area that can be built on and it would also have bars and pubs in the area that people could use pre match A bit like Reading do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, casbahowl said: A bit like Reading do you mean? Which bit ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Just now, westy365owl said: Which bit ? The soulless monstrosity of a football stadium that’s located miles away from the town on an industrial estate next to a motorway that the football fans of Reading don’t see as part of the community and have turned their collective backs on ........ that bit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westy365owl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, casbahowl said: The soulless monstrosity of a football stadium that’s located miles away from the town on an industrial estate next to a motorway that the football fans of Reading don’t see as part of the community and have turned their collective backs on ........ that bit! Hence me saying another option would be up near the gulliver's kingdom near rotherham valley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, westy365owl said: Hence me saying another option would be up near the gulliver's kingdom near rotherham valley So, out of Sheffield?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 On 21/04/2020 at 21:28, Pulsar said: I don't think the South stand is a listed building like Arsenal's was but apart from that yeah. Actually you maybe wrong here, Archibald Leach is world famous in terms of his much vaunted gables. Under redevelopment the gable was spared for a lot more than pure novelty ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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