helmut_rooster Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Does this answer the question? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 All those saying hes keeps getting sacked do you means like Mourinho and Anceotti those shocking managers who we wouldn't touch with a barge pole lol. Swansea Good job Leeds Ok Job Boro Ok Job Birmingham Good Job Us ??? Have any of you looked at the situations before and after Monk at any of those clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Get Bruce back once Newcastle’s new owner sack him Edited April 15, 2020 by Mr. Chow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasthagotanycheese Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Bin the organ grinders MONKey off at the end of the season. No confidence in either him or Chansiri to put together a team capable of promotion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cockers Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Now you've had time to calm down and reflect what are your thoughts on Garry Monk? Is he the right man for the job? Do you believe in his vision of replacing the stale squad with hungrier, younger players and getting problem disruptive players out of the club? Are you happy to back him over the coming seasons? If that is indeed his vision, then he is correct in adopting it. I would say yes, continue with him as manager, but he's on thin ice and any poor run of results would see him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Thought it was still that Portuguese guy and we still had Hooper up front and we were vying with Brighton for promotion and Viv Anderson and time lapses and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Clearly, no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysgame Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 5 hours ago, MallorcaOwl said: He doesn't seem to have a plan that lasts more than 2 consequtive matches. Sounds like our players, wish some of them could play more than 2 matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: With the squad he inherited, Barry Chuckle could and should have got similar results Anyway... Garry Monk.... The same team big Ron got relegated and didn't win the second division with ya mean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 Just now, WelshOwl74 said: The same team big Ron got relegated and didn't win the second division with ya mean So by people's logic in this thread that would make Trevor Francis a much better manager than Big Ron See how it works? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So by people's logic in this thread that would make Trevor Francis a much better manager than Big Ron See how it works? Can't admit when your wrong can you Keep believing frances was garbage and pressman was overrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.. Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 It's a no from Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, WelshOwl74 said: Can't admit when your wrong can you Keep believing frances was garbage and pressman was overrated Francis got sacked after dismantling a successful squad, mismanaging players, getting repeatedly battered on the pitch, and setting the scene for Sheffield Wednesday's fall from grace. Pressman - all a striker had to do in his later years was pass the ball low either side of him = guaranteed goal every time and they knew it. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, coopswfc76 said: All those saying hes keeps getting sacked do you means like Mourinho and Anceotti those shocking managers who we wouldn't touch with a barge pole lol. Swansea Good job Leeds Ok Job Boro Ok Job Birmingham Good Job Us ??? Have any of you looked at the situations before and after Monk at any of those clubs? Swansea - one good debut season then shocking from the off year 2 Leeds - did well for about 30 games then completely capitulated and didn’t make the play offs when all they needed was an average end to the season to get there Boro - sacked in year 1 before Xmas Birmingham - did well and steadied the ship then fell apart around March time Wednesday - did ok getting results with very average performances before Xmas then completely fell apart from Boxing Day onwards with relegation form Its beyond me how people can say he’d done a good job elsewhere when he’s only once finished a season in a consistent way (Swansea year 1). Everywhere else he’s fallen apart mid season and he’s done it here too. There’s no evidence he’s capable of performing for 46 games which is what we’d need to go up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Mr. Chow said: Get Bruce back once Newcastle’s new owner sack him Be like Big Ron’s second coming Maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfonso123 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Situation's fecking ridiculous. Monk looks totally isolated and cuts a solitary figure. It's obvious he needs his own coaching team as back up with this shower. I can't imagine Bullen cutting up rough with any of his old pals on the playing side. Who's to say if Bruce, or anyone else, would have done any better in Monk's situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Westfield Owl said: 100% not the right man. Said so when he was appointed. I was gutted. 2 wins in 14 isn’t it - how many other EFL managers would survive a run like that? And for those that use the ‘it’s not Monk’s squad, let him build his own team’ line, well none of the signings that Monk made in January have been any good. Why any fan would want this guy in charge of overhauling the squad is beyond me. 2 wins in 14. Very poor, no doubt. What were the stats in the 14 games prior to that ? The good thing about stats is that you can manipulate them to suit any argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashi Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Maybe the break will have done him some good....nah still useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coopswfc76 Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 2 hours ago, LondonOwl313 said: Swansea - one good debut season then shocking from the off year 2 Leeds - did well for about 30 games then completely capitulated and didn’t make the play offs when all they needed was an average end to the season to get there Boro - sacked in year 1 before Xmas Birmingham - did well and steadied the ship then fell apart around March time Wednesday - did ok getting results with very average performances before Xmas then completely fell apart from Boxing Day onwards with relegation form Its beyond me how people can say he’d done a good job elsewhere when he’s only once finished a season in a consistent way (Swansea year 1). Everywhere else he’s fallen apart mid season and he’s done it here too. There’s no evidence he’s capable of performing for 46 games which is what we’d need to go up So what was his stats? Swansea Didn't go down under him Leeds Over achieved at start then they fell back to probably were they should have been. Boro There were in a far better shape under Monk thank they are now. Brum Comfortable mid table I seem to remember which for there budget and players they had is good. Rowett when he was there massively over achieved and still got sack. Us Look to pre season posts after Bruce had left to see what peoples thoughts where on our season and then see if you can be as critical. Personally I think he's slightly underachieving now but nobody gave us any hope if going up before he took over so why should we be up there? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommycraign10others Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I have to say I find this continual talk of Monk out extremely disloyal. Fans need to remember he had no pre season has no coaching staff of his own and only I e window. As I have said earlier Bruce reckoned it would take at least 3 to turn round and I seem to recall Monk saying something similar. In fact the general view on here was that he should be given time. I know things have not been good since Christmas but anyone who has been involved in management of any kind knows you need confidantes. As much a part of the scene Bullen is I reckon he is too close to the players to be considered for this role. Garry Monk needs a clean start, some players out, his own coaching team and then he can be judged. One final point. If Garry Monk was to go who would replace him. It certainly wouldn’t be a big name or anyone who has won anything as some seem to think we would attract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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