BREAKING NEWS - EFL's 7 point plan to save this season

[the third man]

1 hour ago, handworth52 said:

for starters appx 50% of players contracts run out on june 30th ,all loans finish in may , I read somewhere clubs would have to extend this seasons contracts , so if you have some waster and we have had plenty on big money and you cant wait for june 30th to come (like we did with abdi for 3-4 years) you would have to give them 2 months more? surely not? . its possible that by july 1st some clubs might only have 3-4 players available due to loans and contracts ending ,all this is driven my money and not common sense . and when would next season start? and what happens if 1 player gets corona virus? that would put that club and other club played on lockdown for 2 weeks plus. if season was scrapped surely no court could touch that ruling based on pubic health and written into football that season must end by a set date. 

 

the other problem with extending contracts is that it puts the players who are out of contract in the driving seat

 

they know they are needed, we have about 10 out of contract, we cant play games without some of them, and that means they can ask what they want to extend for 2 or 3 months, it could cost a fortune

[helmut_rooster]

5 hours ago, mcmigo said:

Can the club arrange for booing to be piped through the loudspeakers at half time , full time, the announcement of Dawson starting and Nuhiu coming off the bench so the players feel at home with no crowds ?

 

We could borrows arsenals fake wall of fans too 

[mogbad]

1 hour ago, owler66 said:

Abandon the 20-21 season finish this one where possible start again in August 21

So for the sake of fitting in 9 matches per club you would have us abandoning a whole season.  One or two clubs might go to the wall as it is but with that suggestion we'd lose dozens.

[TrickyTrev]

5 hours ago, pazowl55 said:

Number 6 is a good one. We will keep all them millions in our bank account for the time being thank you very much.

That money was just resting in my account!!!

 

[Beighton Owl 87]

13 minutes ago, helmut_rooster said:

 

Clever idea, one they have missed from the list, should also ditch the stupid no football lve on tv between 2.45 and  5.15 on Saturdays while they are at it.

I believe UEFA have lifted this recently for matches in England and Scotland with the possibility of behind closed doors games completing the season. 

[Rogers]

In other Words..let’s get on with it. Such high level nonsense. They need something more detailed than this. 
 

No doubt Leeds will be in the background saying we’re top of the league, it needs to be played, in light of their finances. 

[parkfieldowl14]

1 hour ago, helmut_rooster said:

 

We could borrows arsenals fake wall of fans too 

[Ever the pessimist]

I like the fact the players are to be effectively given a close season now. When there’s the square root of f all to do!

[S36 OWL]

Just void this season, erase it from the records, and hopefully start next season in August. 

 

I see no other way. Sod the EFL, sod SkY, and sod the premier league. 

[striker]

3 hours ago, helmut_rooster said:

 

Clever idea, one they have missed from the list, should also ditch the stupid no football lve on tv between 2.45 and  5.15 on Saturdays while they are at it.

I understand the rationale for the restriction to protect attendances. Why not approve access to UK users through the home teams channel, subject to the POTG or a season ticket price. 

 

For those who can't attend, have the option to view and the home club doesn't miss out on revenue. 

 

Foreign ifollow users already have similar access (albeit not POTG prices) and we can all very quickly see highlights posted on social media now anyway 

Edited April 9, 2020 by striker

[Harrysgame]

8 hours ago, folger said:

The EFL really are the most brain dead useless brainlets on earth. 

It's as if they have completely forgot their is a global pandemic costing the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, ruining countries economies for years to come. But hey owls v reading, west Brom v Barnsley etc is far more important...maybe the clubs or the players should just refuse to play. 

EFL are not fit to run a bath let alone football.

[Harrysgame]

1 hour ago, Ever the pessimist said:

I like the fact the players are to be effectively given a close season now. When there’s the square root of f all to do!

No Dubs this year!

[Harrysgame]

3 hours ago, the third man said:

 

the other problem with extending contracts is that it puts the players who are out of contract in the driving seat

 

they know they are needed, we have about 10 out of contract, we cant play games without some of them, and that means they can ask what they want to extend for 2 or 3 months, it could cost a fortune

You would think players lawyers would have a field day..Not up to EFL to extend contracts down to the player if he wants to. If not squeaky clean will have tevezgate 're ineligible played etc. 

[Harrysgame]

4 hours ago, rickygoo said:

I share many of your sentiments but how does voiding the season mean you can concentrate on fighting coronavirus? 

Have heard all professional footballers have joined the St John's, would this help fighting CV19 :-)

[Dick_Turpin]

15 minutes ago, Harrysgame said:

It's as if they have completely forgot their is a global pandemic costing the lives of hundreds of thousands of people, ruining countries economies for years to come. But hey owls v reading, west Brom v Barnsley etc is far more important.

They’ve not said that, or anything resembling that. It’s like you think the EFL ramblings are more important than Coronavirus because you’re on here moaning about them. Or John Lewis think curtains are more important because you can still get them delivered. Or your local takeaway think chicken madras is more important because they’re still flogging it. 

 

They’re simply setting out what they’d like to do. There’s no rush to cancel this season - they can wait to see what FIFA initiatives on contracts turn up and whatever else UEFA are plotting. There might only be room for 9 more games between now and next summer - if so may as well finish this season. The transfer window is overrated anyway. 

 

Voiding the season isn’t some noble act that will have the world applauding and allow the Coronavirus vaccine to be discovered. It’s just one of three bad options. They may just be delaying the inevitable but so what? 

Edited April 9, 2020 by rickygoo

[Harrysgame]

7 hours ago, sherlyegg said:

What if the government advise not to play?

You know, like they sometimes advise people not to travel to certain countries...or they make provisos...you must fund emergency services yourselves, cannot be any spectators etc etc..

 

Lets be reyt, the government are very very unlikely to say that's it, all over, do what you want any time soon

 

 

Good point is traveling to a ground to play a game of football with no spectators essential travel?

Not key workers are they, maybe all the actors in theatres should turn up and perform plays to no one as well... Why does the EFL, PL and UEFA etc think they have a Devine right to do what they want above everybody else. Think Government should just tell them, you can play your games when this is all over.

[DJMortimer]

Quite apart from everything else which has been discussed extensively in this thread in terms of morality, legality, contracts and finances there is something much more fundamental that the league seem to be completely ignoring.

 

It is unlikely that a practical vaccine will be available for at least 12 months, all the methods of transmission have yet to be assessed, given the wide range of responses to infection (ranging from death to being completely oblivious to it) any projections for the numbers of those affected can only be approximate, there is no authoritative data about the likelihood of re-infection within a given period and nothing can yet be established reliably for the possibility of secondary pandemics after relaxing isolation strategies. Already, there has been talk of a programme of civil restrictions being alternately tightened and loosened to try and regulate the levels of infection for months ahead.

 

Watch any discussions about what might happen in future, even with scientists who are leaders in their field, and it's clear that we are still fumbling in the dark about almost every relevant aspect of this. And if this schedule was actually put into practice, what happens when the inevitable unfolds and people at clubs start coming down with it again?

 

So, putting it mildly, the idea of football teams resuming training in a month's time seems wildly optimistic. Clearly, the motivations behind this are far from noble and primarily driven by things that should have been relegated from the forefront of consideration a long time ago. Planning ahead is perfectly reasonable and sensible, but being so seemingly unaware of the harsh realities, and all for the sake of money and convenience is reprehensible.  

 

Edited April 9, 2020 by DJMortimer

[Dick_Turpin]

2 minutes ago, Harrysgame said:

Good point is traveling to a ground to play a game of football with no spectators essential travel?

Not key workers are they, maybe all the actors in theatres should turn up and perform plays to no one as well... Why does the EFL, PL and UEFA etc think they have a Devine right to do what they want above everybody else. Think Government should just tell them, you can play your games when this is all over.

You don’t have to be a key worker to work. But that’s irrelevant- they explicitly say they’ll start up again when government restrictions are lifted. 

[Harrysgame]

2 minutes ago, rickygoo said:

They’ve not said that, or anything resembling that. It’s like you think the EFL ramblings are more important than Coronavirus because you’re on here moaning about them. Or John Lewis think curtains are more important because you can still get them delivered. Or your local takeaway think chicken madras is more important because they’re still clogging it. 

 

They’re simply setting out what they’d like to do. There’s no rush to cancel this season - they can wait to see what FIFA initiatives on contracts turn up and whatever else UEFA are plotting. There might only be room for 9 more games between now and next summer - if so may as well finish this season. The transfer window is overrated anyway. 

 

Voiding the season isn’t some noble act that will have the world applauding and allow the Coronavirus vaccine to be discovered. It’s just one of three bad options. They may just be delaying the inevitable but so what? 

For what it's worth I would just void the season and move on and hopefully get back to football next season. Nothing has been one or lost at this point

 

[Dick_Turpin]

5 minutes ago, DJMortimer said:

Quite apart from everything else which has been discussed extensively in this thread in terms of morality, legality, contracts and finances there is something much more fundamental that the league seem to be completely ignoring.

 

It is unlikely that a practical vaccine will be available for at least 12 months, all the methods of transmission have yet to be assessed, given the wide range of responses to infection (ranging from death to being completely oblivious to it) any projections for the numbers of those affected can only be approximate, there is no authoritative data about the likelihood of re-infection within a given period and nothing can yet be established reliably for the possibility of secondary pandemics after relaxing isolation strategies. Already, there has been talk of a programme of civil restrictions being alternately tightened and loosened to try and regulate the levels of infection for months ahead

 

Watch any discussions about what might happen in future, even with scientists who are leaders in their field, and it's clear that we are still fumbling in the dark about almost every relevant aspect of this.

 

So, putting it mildly, the idea of football teams resuming training in a month's time seems wildly optimistic. Clearly, the motivations behind this are far from noble and primarily driven by things that should have been relegated from the forefront of consideration a long time ago. Planning ahead is perfectly reasonable and sensible, but being so seemingly unaware of the harsh realities, and all for the sake of money and convenience is reprehensible.  

 

When has any business been driven solely  by moral standards? Football is reprehensible but in this it’s just acting like all other businesses. If they can’t play they won’t play - just like Atkinson’s won’t reopen and Wetherspoon pubs will stay shut. The planning will have been in vain and none of us will be any worse off. 

Edited April 9, 2020 by rickygoo