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Homegrown talent Liam Palmer has now played 250 games for Sheffield Wednesday. Quite an achievement and when you consider some of the criticism he came under for his earlier performances as he was finding his feet it's all the more impressive.

But how much do you rate Liam Palmer? Has he improved enough and is he now a player you rate?

When was the first time you saw Liam play for Sheffield Wednesday? 

Do you have a slightly different impression of Liam Palmer because he's come through the ranks?

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He gets in good positions on many occasions and always fizzes it up. 
 

He’s not a bad squad player and has steady games more often than not

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He’s adequate for where we are now - can probably extend that to cover our other home grown talent Dawson (given they are both pictured).  That’s about all I can offer on this one.

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Stronger and more dependable than he used to be. Has cut out some of his lapses in concentration defensively, but still the odd wobble. Must improve his offensive game, but turning 29 this year I'm not sure how much improvement we're likely to see.

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I can’t question his attitude on and off the pitch 

 

He seems from the outside that he wants to succeed here and looks as though he tries his best 

 

Like so many of the squad not really improved over the last 4 or 5 years and can be deemed as a useful squad player if we want to progress as a club 

 

Lacks that extra bit of quality at important times in key areas 

 

Still currently our best full back - on either side of the pitch 

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Improved a lot under Bruce. Solid and dependable. Still if we are serious about promotion ambitions then we need better.

 

But can’t fault him and some achievement. Been a great servant. 

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He is a good 6-7 out of 10 performer a good championship standard performer, more suited to a defensive right back rather than an attacking winger, but very useful for the squad as can play well on both flanks and has the physical presents unlike some of the midgets we have in the squad.

 

I also used to work with one of his family and by their account is a very down to earth local lad, who though he is a footballer has never forgotten his fairly local routes (Worksop).

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Good backup player.

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I like Palmer. He’s got a good engine on him, never goes into hiding and he’s definitely improved as a defender during the last 12 months 

 

Only downside is his crossing at times and he could do with chipping in with a few goals 

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He’s got some decent guns on him too these days

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Probably had 5 years here more than he should have based on quality. Solid pro though.

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Solid enough squad player for a mid-table team at this level. Looked impressive under Bruce at left-back. 

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I've said it before, he's a very good athlete

 

Works tirelessly up and down the pitch

 

His defending has improved immensely, but it needed to

 

I'm not mention his ability to cross the ball

 

The fact he's played so many games for Wednesday, is a reflection on how bad we have been as a club, and not how good he is as a player

 

Love his attitude, love his workrate, but we'll never be more than a run of the mill Championship club until we get better players

 

Neg away guys, but Liam is a cheap option, that's why he's stayed here so long, he just doesn't possess the quality that will help sustain a promotion challenge

 

How many assists has he got in those 250 games, 4, 5?

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Personally I think he does as little as he possiblity can.

 

The amount of times, especially this last 2 seasons I've seen him just jogging back when the other team is attacking.

 

He is a defender right?

 

Can anyone remember seeing him make a crunching tackle or a defensive header?

 

Nothing personal, I just don't think he is championship material.

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28 minutes ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

Love his attitude, love his workrate,

His last performance away at Brentford was a disgrace mate.

 

Showed neither of those attributes. 

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28 minutes ago, HOOTIE AND THE poo TU said:

I've said it before, he's a very good athlete

 

Works tirelessly up and down the pitch

 

His defending has improved immensely, but it needed to

 

I'm not mention his ability to cross the ball

 

The fact he's played so many games for Wednesday, is a reflection on how bad we have been as a club, and not how good he is as a player

 

Love his attitude, love his workrate, but we'll never be more than a run of the mill Championship club until we get better players

 

Neg away guys, but Liam is a cheap option, that's why he's stayed here so long, he just doesn't possess the quality that will help sustain a promotion challenge

 

How many assists has he got in those 250 games, 4, 5?

 

Nine.

 

That's an assist every 28 games, so he might get you one or two a season.

 

For context, Fox averages an assist every 17 games for us; Pudil averaged one every 13; and Hunt one every 12.

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4 hours ago, wilyfox said:

Stronger and more dependable than he used to be. Has cut out some of his lapses in concentration defensively, but still the odd wobble. Must improve his offensive game, but turning 29 this year I'm not sure how much improvement we're likely to see.

Probably sums it up for me, though I’d add that he is a lot more comfortable on the ball these days, whichever flank he is on

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A player I wish would improved a lot more..  like the guy / Wednesday thru and thru / does generally try very hard but has limitations which are well 

documented and would say he is league 1 standard - albeit would be very good there..

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46 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

Nine.

 

That's an assist every 28 games, so he might get you one or two a season.

 

For context, Fox averages an assist every 17 games for us; Pudil averaged one every 13; and Hunt one every 12.

 

After doing this, I suddenly thought maybe I was doing Palmer a disservice, as he's obviously been at the club for a long time and since a very young age, so I decided to check how his assists looked if judged over the last five seasons alone.

 

He's got 4 in 137 games, averaging an assist every 34 matches.

 

Sorry Liam, I was trying to help you out!

 

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He's quicker and stronger than most other full backs in this division and his defensive positioning to cover for his centre backs is excellent.

 

Easily good enough for a top 6 championship side, just the usual boo boys think he should be cafu

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