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1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

 

That's my point

People tended to lump all foreign players at the time into this mythical 'greedy, self serving, showboat' classification

At the time it was the norm

These days as we have learnt it's not just incorrect, but abhorrent

Must clarify I didnt mean you. Just people of the time. 

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Just now, Daizan10 said:

Must clarify I didnt mean you. Just people of the time. 


Yeah I know.

I remember it well back in the day. A very terrible viewpoint was held by many


 


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2 hours ago, @owlstalk said:



I've read this statement over and over since you posted it


You're gonna have to explain to me how players personalities get them called up for their country..

Steve Bruce never played for England. Is he the same personality as Di Canio?

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t certainly the only reason I never played for England, also.

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6 hours ago, @owlstalk said:

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One of the things that really irked me is that when Di Canio and Carbone were at our club there was a quote from Danny Wilson labelling them as 'fancy dan' footballers,

Wilson himself saying it didn't bother me. He was a manager out of his depth and struggling and the quote just seemed like a manager on the verge of quitting or being sacked after a poor run of results.

What really hurt was that I then heard our fans start to adopt the phrase and throwing it at Di Canio (one of the most magical, gifted, amazing players to have ever worn the shirt), and Carbone who was also fantastic on his day.

Once again some of our fans had heard something said by someone at the club and immediately adopted it as their approach too. 

No questioning of it at all. It was said by the club so it must also be the gospel truth

For years I've come across Wednesday fans who still label Di Canio and Carbone as fancy dan's and it really irks me. It makes me want to shake them, and show them videos of these players in action.

They weren't fancy dan footballers. Not in the slightest. They had craft and flair on the ball that our English players at the time could only wish they had. Their skills made them stand out against the rest. Their ability was second to none.

 

If you were one of those people who walked around tutting at the name Di Canio and Carbone and calling them fancy dan's then please realise it made you look stupid.

They were never fancy dan footballers - they were BRILLIANT and how I wish we could have them in our squad right now.

did pleat buy dicanio?

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5 minutes ago, dorian gray said:

did pleat buy dicanio?

 

Pretty sure he did. £3m plus Regi Blinker (who was valued at £1.5m)

 

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2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

 

 

 

Pleat didn't sign Jonk - that was something else to blame Danny WIlson for.

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DI Canio signed August 8th 1997

 

 

Paolo Di Canio yesterday vowed not to turn his back on Sheffield Wednesday after finally ending months of personal heartache with Celtic which led to his recent dramatic walk-out. Wednesday's new club record £4.5 million signing was fined £25,000 by Celtic after deciding not to return to the Glasgow giants following a pre-season tour of Ireland.

But after putting pen to paper on a four-year contract with Sheffield Wednesday, Di Canio is determined to repay the faith shown in him by Wednesday boss David Pleat.

The 29-year-old Italian shied away from his specific problems surrounding a traumatic summer with Celtic, which initially started with the sacking of the man who signed him from AC Milan for £1 million a year ago, Tommy Burns.

However he said: "I loved Celtic and I loved their fans, but sometimes a love affair has to end. I wanted to stay, but I had to think about my future.

"I am happy that all of my problems with Celtic are now behind me and I can look forward to a good season with Sheffield Wednesday. They have made a big investment in me and for this I can promise 100 per cent in return."

Wednesday have often been accused of lacking ambition in the past, but Di Canio believes that with his arrival the club have finally broken that mould.

He added: "I think we can have a big season. This is a great chance for us to win something and hopefully qualify for Europe.

"But this is the move I wanted. There is a big difference between the Premiership and the top division in Scotland."

Di Canio admits he is only 60 to 70 per cent fit and is unlikely to start at Newcastle in the Premiership opener on Saturday.

However, Pleat knows he has brought a player of quality to the club which could make all the difference between Wednesday winning any silverware and another season of near misses. 

 

Pleat said of the Scottish Players' Player of the Year: "Whether Paolo, at the beginning of the summer was badly advised or correctly advised in staying away from Celtic is something that never really concerned us, except to say he had some private and personal disagreements regarding his contractual situation there.

"But I am sure he will get a warm welcome in Yorkshire and capture the fans' imagination and add that little bit of flair and personality that every team needs."

Wednesday were at pains to point out that Di Canio's transfer was a completely separate deal to the one conducted between Celtic and Dutch international winger Regi Blinker.

The 28-year-old took the opposite route to Di Canio and signed for the Parkhead club this morning for £1.5 million, linking up with head coach Wim Jansen, his former boss at Feyenoord.

Blinker said: "I am looking forward to working with Wim Jansen again. He is a man who played a big part in my career when he brought me to Feyenoord many years ago."

The move will also see Blinker linking up again with Swedish striker Henrik Larsson - another of Jansen's recent foreign imports - following their days together at Feyenoord.

Meanwhile, Celtic bade farewell to Di Canio with a bitter parting shot over the player's antics.

Club owner Fergus McCann said: "Paolo Di Canio has really let himself down and he has treated the club, its supporters and his colleagues with contempt.

"At the end of the day, we don't want a player who we can't control or who will be a problem for the coach in the dressing room."


 


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10 minutes ago, alanharper said:

 

Pretty sure he did. £3m plus Regi Blinker (who was valued at £1.5m)

 

from memory at the time, we had a decent side, almost a very decent one, and I thought we were looking for 'a proper' c/f which we were badly in need of to progress to the highest level. I seem to remember we were after ewe rosler (who was a big hammer at the time) from man citeh, but citeh wouldn't play ball. 

he then spent the money on dicanio, and didn't we stick with (7 goals a season) andy booth at c/f?

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4 minutes ago, alanharper said:

 

Pleat didn't sign Jonk - that was something else to blame Danny WIlson for.

it's a wonder coco didn't resign him, he'd have been his favourite player, does anyone remember jonk making an 'effective' pass?

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4 minutes ago, dorian gray said:

it's a wonder coco didn't resign him, he'd have been his favourite player, does anyone remember jonk making an 'effective' pass?

 

Actually I can remember him making a stunning pinpoint through ball on his debut against West Ham to put a striker in on goal. Can't remember who the striker was, probably Booth, and obviously he missed the sitter as we lost 1-0, but I thought we'd signed the new Sheridan - he went very quickly downhill from then on!

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Paulo Di Canio 1999 Sheffield Wednesday to West Ham (£1.7m)

Following his infamous 11 match ban for pushing over Paul Alcock, nobody seemed to want to touch the charismatic Italian forward with the proverbial bargepole. Except for the poor old Wednesday fans - they knew exactly how good he was and were desperately awaiting his return, but their boss Danny Wilson didn't fancy managing him and it became clear that the Hillsborough hierarchy would not have him back when the ban was complete. Just when it looked like he might be heading back to Italy up stepped cockney laffing boy 'Arry Redknapp. Di Canio's skill was unquestionable, but it was being able to control his temperament that all the other managers were worried about. But Redknapp thought he could handle it. It was seen as something of a gamble when he persuaded the West Ham board to write a cheque for 1.7 million, but it soon became apparent that they'd got him for peanuts. Paulo and 'Arry got on famously and following numerous moments of trickery, man-of-the-match performances, goals and goal of the season awards, Di Canio soon became the most popular Hammers player since Trevor Brooking. Cor blimey, he even won acclaim for his sportsmanship after he famously caught the ball at Everton whilst the goalie was down injured. As a perennial wheeler dealer, this has to go down as Redknapp's finest hour.

 


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2 minutes ago, alanharper said:

 

Actually I can remember him making a stunning pinpoint through ball on his debut against West Ham to put a striker in on goal. Can't remember who the striker was, probably Booth, and obviously he missed the sitter as we lost 1-0, but I thought we'd signed the new Sheridan - he went very quickly downhill from then on!

WOW! well done, I couldn't remember him making one in the opposition half.

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1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:

Paulo Di Canio 1999 Sheffield Wednesday to West Ham (£1.7m)

Following his infamous 11 match ban for pushing over Paul Alcock, nobody seemed to want to touch the charismatic Italian forward with the proverbial bargepole. Except for the poor old Wednesday fans - they knew exactly how good he was and were desperately awaiting his return, but their boss Danny Wilson didn't fancy managing him and it became clear that the Hillsborough hierarchy would not have him back when the ban was complete. Just when it looked like he might be heading back to Italy up stepped cockney laffing boy 'Arry Redknapp. Di Canio's skill was unquestionable, but it was being able to control his temperament that all the other managers were worried about. But Redknapp thought he could handle it. It was seen as something of a gamble when he persuaded the West Ham board to write a cheque for 1.7 million, but it soon became apparent that they'd got him for peanuts. Paulo and 'Arry got on famously and following numerous moments of trickery, man-of-the-match performances, goals and goal of the season awards, Di Canio soon became the most popular Hammers player since Trevor Brooking. Cor blimey, he even won acclaim for his sportsmanship after he famously caught the ball at Everton whilst the goalie was down injured. As a perennial wheeler dealer, this has to go down as Redknapp's finest hour.

proper manager at west aaam, v. bit of a lad giving it a go at hillsborough.

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All we can hope for is now, 20 odd years later,¬†those so-called fans¬†with all their talk of ‚Äúfancy-dannery‚ÄĚ get their just desserts.

I, for one, will not rest til justice is served.

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5 hours ago, soldierboyblue said:

He moved after been thrown under the bus by the club and chairman - in short it would be referred to as Constructive Dismissal in today's employment market 

He wasn't thrown under the bus. There was no grey area. He pushed a referee over. He should have taken the ban on the chin and come back raring to go. But this was a rascal who got sent off arguing about a throw-in. A self-absorbed nutter. 

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Just now, rickygoo said:

He wasn't thrown under the bus. There was no grey area. He pushed a referee over. He should have taken the ban on the chin and come back raring to go. But this was a rascal who got sent off arguing about a throw-in. A self-absorbed nutter. 

for me he weren't a 'full shilling' and that's why celtic got shut, he needed a proper manager, one he respected.

bfr, not danny (the) boy.

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6 minutes ago, rickygoo said:

He wasn't thrown under the bus. There was no grey area. He pushed a referee over. He should have taken the ban on the chin and come back raring to go. 


He did


Paid for his own lawyers to go to the meeting to get his punishment


Sheffield Wednesday's Dave Richards and Danny Wilson didn't bother going with him


He accepted his punishment, said it was fair, didn't appeal it, nor did Sheffield Wednesday


Wednesday then sold him


 


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