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Chansiri 3- 0 EFL

 

still time for us to mess it up though in the second half with Monk in charge

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Surely this means it won’t be maximum 21 points.

 

A big sigh of relief!!

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4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:


 

Definitely looks that way
 

Although you could imagine the likes of Boro etc trying legal action if we are let off

Proving a breach of FFP is pretty straightforward.

 

Proving somebody deliberately misled somebody has a very high burden of proof.

 

People are getting far too excited about two charges that are certainly not intrinsically linked.

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6 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

Proving a breach of FFP is pretty straightforward.

 

Proving somebody deliberately misled somebody has a very high burden of proof.

 

People are getting far too excited about two charges that are certainly not intrinsically linked.

 

the big issue was it was an "aggravated" breach

surely that has now been removed as the charges have been not proven from indiividuals

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2 minutes ago, Dot said:

 

the big issue was it was an "aggravated" breach

surely that has now been removed as the charges have been removed 

That was what the potential extra 9 points were for (my understanding).

 

A breach of FFP still has a maximum penalty of 12 points.

 

im not saying this isn’t encouraging but we are far from out of the woods.

 

9 points puts us in the bottom 3.

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4 minutes ago, TodwickOwl said:

Have we lost the arbitration then?


If we had , what would be vigorously defending ?  You can’t defend an independent panel hearing, the outcome possibly 

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1 minute ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

That was what the potential extra 9 points were for (my understanding).

 

A breach of FFP still has a maximum penalty of 12 points.

 

im not saying this isn’t encouraging but we are far from out of the woods.

 

9 points puts us in the bottom 3.


 

Thank you for the clarification mate 

 

Appreciated

 

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2 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

That was what the potential extra 9 points were for (my understanding).

 

A breach of FFP still has a maximum penalty of 12 points.

 

im not saying this isn’t encouraging but we are far from out of the woods.

 

9 points puts us in the bottom 3.

 

Given that three individual charges have been  wiped off

I would suspect that our legal team have a fairly decent starting point for the remaining charge

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Honestly don’t think they’ve even done arbitration on the charges against the club 

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1 minute ago, Dot said:

 

Given that three individual charges have been  wiped off

I would suspect that our legal team have a fairly decent starting point for the remaining charge


 

I think the arbitration panel is made up of three people - one of which is our representative 

 

I think that’s correct?

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37 minutes ago, erickpottsfc said:

If the EFL have dropped all charges how come the Club will continue to defend all charges?

 

Charges against the 3 named people for 'wrong doing' of sorts.

 

Charges still exist for breaking rules regarding expenditure mi owd cocker 

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37 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:


 

This is critical to understand 

 

Twitter and Facebook is going mad with fans thinking the club has totally beaten the EFL

 

We haven’t 

 

 

Yet.

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1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:


 

I think the arbitration panel is made up of three people - one of which is our representative 

 

I think that’s correct?

 

I wouldn't know

but given that three charges against us have already been shown there is no case to answer...would suggest anyone defending us on the last charge has a good start here

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1 minute ago, Dot said:

 

Given that three charges individual charges have been  wiped off

I would suspect that our legal team have a fairly decent starting point for the remaining charge

I hope so and we certainly have the best sports counsel available on it.

 

But top barristers will find it relatively easy to demonstrate reasonable doubt that the EFL were deliberately misled.

 

They may find it more difficult to demonstrate we haven’t breached FFP.

 

It may well be that the EFL think our ground was over valued and/or that the transaction was not in the accounting period that we claim BUT they accept that they can’t prove that we deliberately misled them in this regard.

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32 minutes ago, Royal_D said:

Remind me again what the charges directly against the club were ?

 

Selling raw pies at half time and for not burning all those evil gnomes in the club shop.

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Posted (edited)

Wasn’t the whole basis of the EFL charge that Chansiri had misled them and fudged the accounts ??  If he hasn’t done that and the EFL are accepting the accounts were correct how have we breached FFP ?

Edited by Royal_D

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33 minutes ago, slinger208b said:


All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?..

 

Let us laugh at them while they wore skirts?

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1 minute ago, helmut_rooster said:

 

Selling raw pies at half time and for not burning all those evil gnomes in the club shop.

Actually that’s incorrect.

 

They weren’t saying the pies were raw they were saying that we told them they were hot but they were actually frazzled and then allowed to go cold.

 

They now accept that whilst they weren’t hot we didn’t deliberately mislead them because we thought they were hot.

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18 minutes ago, SwellOwl said:

Surely this means it won’t be maximum 21 points.

 

A big sigh of relief!!


12 point deduction and we will still do down imo. 

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