Harrysgame Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, The Night-Owl said: Deluded if they think it's possible to complete this season. Too many issues and not enough time to resolve them and to fit a rescheduled calendar in, along with player contracts; transfer window, pre-season and next season. The virus issues will last longer than the summer and into next year. When is next season supposed to start, is it worth putting on hold future seasons just for the good of a few teams? Health and life is far more important, tough luck the teams that will miss out on honours and promotion but past seasons were cancelled and put on hold for the war and teams have been banned or missed out on things due to war, conflicts and European competition bans before. The season is over, get over it. It's just football. Go again next season whenever sport resumes in the future. Great post. Wish football would just get a grip and realise just how many people this is going to effect. They should be ashamed 0000's will die over the world, countless more will lose their business and families in hardship....and yet some clubs say it's not fair, we might have got promoted. Absolute selfish two hats. It's a game FFS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 Who do they think they are ? Fairly sure wether the football restarts or not is down to higher powers than clubs and the pathetic EFL Finishing the season off is nothing other than a money oriented decision made by a ‘sport’ that’s corrupt and rotten to the core Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 It's now clear the efl listen to no foooker, DC first now expert scientists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Who do they think they are ? Fairly sure wether the football restarts or not is down to higher powers than clubs and the pathetic EFL Finishing the season off is nothing other than a money oriented decision made by a ‘sport’ that’s corrupt and rotten to the core I don't see why people are getting their knickers in a twist about this. Football can organise itself and its calendar however it wants to. Delaying next season in order to complete this season isn't contradicting any government advice - it's simply an internal reorganisation of a sport. Moving the football calendar around isn't going to cost lives or jeopardise anybody's health just like the planned move of the French Open tennis to September isn't dangerous. If it's dodgy to play the clubs won't play. They've shown that by how they acted in advance of the government change of heart. Given the season is nearly over by far the fairest thing to do - if it's possible - is to finish it properly. There'll be all sorts of contractual and timing issues which may prove to be insurmountable - which are all issues the clubs are well aware of, much more so than fans are - but surely in a sporting sense they are right to hold fire and try and work out whether finishing the season is possible. Sometimes football has been suspended by major events and sometimes it hasn't. The 1914-15 season went ahead even though it started after the First World War began. The opposite happened in the Second World War but there were still competitions like the Football League War Cup and mini regional leagues. It may prove too much of a ball ache - but the calendar is already being fizzed about by the next World Cup. It's far better for the integrity of the sport if the season can be finished and teams go up, go down or stay put after their efforts over a full season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 42 minutes ago, rickygoo said: I don't see why people are getting their knickers in a twist about this. Football can organise itself and its calendar however it wants to. Delaying next season in order to complete this season isn't contradicting any government advice - it's simply an internal reorganisation of a sport. Moving the football calendar around isn't going to cost lives or jeopardise anybody's health just like the planned move of the French Open tennis to September isn't dangerous. If it's dodgy to play the clubs won't play. They've shown that by how they acted in advance of the government change of heart. Given the season is nearly over by far the fairest thing to do - if it's possible - is to finish it properly. There'll be all sorts of contractual and timing issues which may prove to be insurmountable - which are all issues the clubs are well aware of, much more so than fans are - but surely in a sporting sense they are right to hold fire and try and work out whether finishing the season is possible. Sometimes football has been suspended by major events and sometimes it hasn't. The 1914-15 season went ahead even though it started after the First World War began. The opposite happened in the Second World War but there were still competitions like the Football League War Cup and mini regional leagues. It may prove too much of a ball ache - but the calendar is already being fizzed about by the next World Cup. It's far better for the integrity of the sport if the season can be finished and teams go up, go down or stay put after their efforts over a full season. Integrity of the sport is absolutely irrelevant when people are dying/going to die from a global pandemic mate, they can’t organise ANYTHING until the govt changes it’s advise to say big sporting events can go ahead It’s all about money, money , and more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: Integrity of the sport is absolutely irrelevant when people are dying/going to die from a global pandemic mate, they can’t organise ANYTHING until the govt changes it’s advise to say big sporting events can go ahead It’s all about money, money , and more money So why can't they just wait and see whether they can finish the season? No-one will die because of it. If they can they will. If they can't they won't. In the greater scheme of things it doesn't matter of course. But that applies to the new season as well. I genuinely don't see what the issue is. You could argue they shouldn't be discussing it at all but it's their business and livelihoods we're talking about. The French Open tennis is now scheduled for September. Is that morally outrageous? I work in an industry that's been decimated by the virus with projects put on hold indefinitely. But people are still trying to muddle a way through it and work out what might be possible and when, making contingency plans that are highly unlikely to come into play but you never know, working out whether things can be salvaged. Football is in the same boat. If they can sort the contract side out it's much easier from a legal and fairness standpoint to try and salvage the current season. That should be the first thought. If it proves impossible then something else will have to be worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: I don't see why people are getting their knickers in a twist about this. Football can organise itself and its calendar however it wants to. Delaying next season in order to complete this season isn't contradicting any government advice - it's simply an internal reorganisation of a sport. Moving the football calendar around isn't going to cost lives or jeopardise anybody's health just like the planned move of the French Open tennis to September isn't dangerous. If it's dodgy to play the clubs won't play. They've shown that by how they acted in advance of the government change of heart. Given the season is nearly over by far the fairest thing to do - if it's possible - is to finish it properly. There'll be all sorts of contractual and timing issues which may prove to be insurmountable - which are all issues the clubs are well aware of, much more so than fans are - but surely in a sporting sense they are right to hold fire and try and work out whether finishing the season is possible. Sometimes football has been suspended by major events and sometimes it hasn't. The 1914-15 season went ahead even though it started after the First World War began. The opposite happened in the Second World War but there were still competitions like the Football League War Cup and mini regional leagues. It may prove too much of a ball ache - but the calendar is already being fizzed about by the next World Cup. It's far better for the integrity of the sport if the season can be finished and teams go up, go down or stay put after their efforts over a full season. If the season cannot be concluded by the end of June then it will be totally corrupted anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, scram said: If the season cannot be concluded by the end of June then it will be totally corrupted anyway. In which case, if they can't resolve the contracts issue, they'll have to come up with another solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 I hope the players refuse to play if they try to force it upon them, and I fully expect them to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Just now, TINKERBELL said: Leeds bellend on sky saying it has to be concluded. No selfish comments there then.if leeds was 14th you wouldn't hear a peep from them. Nullify the season. Its the only way Agree, it’s beyond comprehension that the PL , EFL or anyone else can try and put an argument forwards for games to go ahead anytime soon It’s totally money orientated and it stinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treborowl Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 6 hours ago, flo said: Yes I expect this season to be classed as the 2019/20/21 season how's that affect FFP? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Royal_D said: I hope the players refuse to play if they try to force it upon them, and I fully expect them to do so How are they going to force it on players? Either the games will be able to go ahead or they won't. The new Corona Virus bill that's about to be published is going to give the Government vast powers when it comes to public events. There's no way the EFL will go ahead without wider support and games being legal. They simply won't be able to. In fact they called off games at significant expense before the government advised that they should. It's ludicrous to suggest they'll force players to play if the advice/law says don't. And it simply isn't about money or life, that too is ridiculous. It's about whether the various administrative hurdles can be overcome to allow the season to be completed. Games won't be played if people's health is risked by it in an unreasonable way. There will come a time when football can be played and the question will simply be whether to finish the old season first or start a new one. It won't be about risking people's health to finish the season. It will be an assessment of whether the inconvenience of delaying the new season and the complicated issues surrounding contracts etc can be overcome. It's about administering a calendar and sorting out player contracts not genocide. I don't think the season will be completed. But I don't blame the EFL for exploring all options because it's the right thing if it can be done. We railed against high prices when Leeds charged them - even boycotted Elland Road Then we did it and suddenly it was totally justified. We slag teams for exploiting the legal loophole of administration and then clap Chansiri when he uses a different accounting loophole to get round some pesky rules he doesn't like. We try and wrap the EFL up in legal knots and laud Chansiri for it and then when Hull and Boro get in on the legal act we slag them off. So if you're asking me to accept that Wednesday fans would take some sort of moral high ground and wouldn't be wanting the season to be finished - especially given we are essentially talking a sporting calendar administrative issue not risking life and limb - if we were top of the Premier League, in the Champions League or FA Cup quarter finals or in an automatic promotion place then forgive me but I won't. We would press for the season to be completed and, this time, Chansiri would be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Loxley Owl said: What a stupid decision to make now. It is clearly going to be months before the football can resume. They should be looking at this when things look like they may be returning to normal, not after 1 postponed match. Right now even if the rest of the season was binned immediately, I strongly doubt next season would be able to begin in August. It's been voted to finish the season off and play the remaining games whenever it's possible to do so - they haven't said when. They have no way of knowing. They've started so they want to finish. If you'd ever "been" with a woman or man you'd know coitus interruptus is something to be avoided if at all possible. Edited March 18, 2020 by rickygoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Horse Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 As I'm sure someone must've said before, just televise the chairmen playing the games out on FIFA. Or even better, Virtua Striker. Maybe get Dominik Diamond to do the commentary as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy bunny Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 The whole of Europe is on indefinite lockdown and the clowns running the sport of football come out with this The whole momentum of the season is running down as we speak, what do people expect, players just to pick up where they left off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 play behind closed doors seems the obvious solution if they want to get the season finished asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Harrysgame said: TBH it does not matter what Champ clubs decide. If PL call the season void then no room for 3 to go up. This is nothing more than Champ clubs saying look at me and some may even be thinking of any potential positioning for legal action against PL as anyone of 15 clubs could argue they were denied a chance of promotion if a season is void. But it is a top down league, if no relegation no promotion. Love to see look Leeds when they have to announce that despite the wheels not falling off at Elland road this season, they have still failed to be promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, torryowl said: play behind closed doors seems the obvious solution if they want to get the season finished asap. Police out on mass to move fans on from Penistone road just trying to catch a glimpse of their star idols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 12 hours ago, Loxley Owl said: What a stupid decision to make now. It is clearly going to be months before the football can resume. They should be looking at this when things look like they may be returning to normal, not after 1 postponed match. Right now even if the rest of the season was binned immediately, I strongly doubt next season would be able to begin in August. Football at it's best. Just thinking of themselves as usual It really is in the gutter now. The sport of the selfish Clubs and local businesses going to the wall while players are still paid 50, 100, 200 grand a week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 10 hours ago, meggoisgod said: How can anyone play after 1st June if out of contract? No insurance, free to play for anyone,...!? Wont happen imo 2 options only for me 1. Nul and void 2. Base the final positions on the series of games when we played everyone once I vote for number 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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