billyblack Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Im sure we would do the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, billyblack said: Im sure we would do the same Well the speed the courts work at I can see us getting relegated to division one in 2023. Though if monk stays that might actually turn out to be promotion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 11 hours ago, dykwim said: Why not just accept you haven’t played good enough and go down with dignity? I can’t believe there isn’t anything clean cut in the rule book for what happens under these circumstances though. Utter chaos is bound to follow any decision now. Or why not accept that we have broken rules, take what's coming to us and stop being that grubby club that that people are starting to take a dislike to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 11 hours ago, TrickyTrev said: The legal process is what it is and we’ve every right to follow it. And so do they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 12 hours ago, s73owl said: Just had this sent to me https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/hull-city-sue-sheffield-wednesday-3952349 f***off Hull you bitter twohats That has to rank as one the worst written articles on the worst looking web site that I’ve ever had the displeasure to read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, billyblack said: Im sure we would do the same To right we would, with the money at stake these days it's a ruthless business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 54 minutes ago, rickygoo said: And so do they. Who do you back in this case? Hull or Sheffield Wednesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Who do you back in this case? Hull or Sheffield Wednesday? WTF has that got to do with anything? I don't know the legal ins and outs but we're using the legal system and Chansiri is lauded for it then Hull get slagged off for doing the same thing. Double standards. I don't want a points deduction. I wish Chansiri had run the club in such a way that we didn't need to use accounting sleight of hand to avoid points deductions. I think Chansiri has made a right balls of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Owl 2 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, rickygoo said: WTF has that got to do with anything? I don't know the legal ins and outs but we're using the legal system and Chansiri is lauded for it then Hull get slagged off for doing the same thing. Double standards. I don't want a points deduction. I wish Chansiri had run the club in such a way that we didn't need to use accounting sleight of hand to avoid points deductions. I think Chansiri has made a right balls of it all. We are using it to defend ourselves against charges. They are using it to be snidey flaps. I think we all know that yet you think they are in the right. Says a lot and I think you do want a points deduction in all honesty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyto Alba Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) Promotion and relegation should be settled on the field not in the courts. FFP is OK imo because it is designed to protect clubs from owners like ours, but I don't like points deductions, they are anti-sport. I'd rather fine or ban owners for failing to keep clubs within sustainable spending limits. Edited March 16, 2020 by Tyto Alba 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 We’d do same if boot was on other foot Football is a dirty, grubby, corrupt game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, Belfast Owl 2 said: We are using it to defend ourselves against charges. They are using it to be snidey flaps. I think we all know that yet you think they are in the right. Says a lot and I think you do want a points deduction in all honesty A mind reader - congratulations. They are saying - not unreasonably - that if we have cheated we should be punished as promptly as possible as without the cheating we could have been in the bottom three anyway. If we get away with it all well and good. And I really don't want a points deduction. I don't mind trips to Rochdale etc they are quite good fun, but I fear the club will be in mortal danger given our finances if we go down a division. I am a Wednesday fan and definitely not a Chansiri fan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddlesdiamondlights Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: A mind reader - congratulations. They are saying - not unreasonably - that if we have cheated we should be punished as promptly as possible as without the cheating we could have been in the bottom three anyway. If we get away with it all well and good. And I really don't want a points deduction. I don't mind trips to Rochdale etc they are quite good fun, but I fear the club will be in mortal danger given our finances if we go down a division. I am a Wednesday fan and definitely not a Chansiri fan. It's the we bit that sticks in the throat. It's never been we as we have nothing to do with it. We the fans and players are not to blame and chansiri has not even been proved to have broken the rules. But I do believe if the rules have been broken it should be a financial penalty against the owner as the fans and players don't have a say in the running of the club. It annoys me that Luton and Hull and boro are using our situation for their gain as they aren't up to it on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Hull sold their best two players in January, they deserve to go down. Horrible owners! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 23 minutes ago, Waddlesdiamondlights said: It's the we bit that sticks in the throat. It's never been we as we have nothing to do with it. We the fans and players are not to blame and chansiri has not even been proved to have broken the rules. But I do believe if the rules have been broken it should be a financial penalty against the owner as the fans and players don't have a say in the running of the club. It annoys me that Luton and Hull and boro are using our situation for their gain as they aren't up to it on the pitch. But if we are found to have cheated then the only reason we have been up to it on the pitch is by retaining players we should have sold or released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Beauchief Owl said: Hull sold their best two players in January, they deserve to go down. Horrible owners! Surely that's their point though. In the event of us being found guilty they will argue that if we had stuck to FFP rules we probably would have had to have done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefdave Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 They've never got over us taking their kop every year in the 70's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddlesdiamondlights Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, rickygoo said: But if we are found to have cheated then the only reason we have been up to it on the pitch is by retaining players we should have sold or released. It's not about cheating. We used a loophole to get over the overspend which was at the time a legal way of doing it by dc buying the ground. The point is that the registered date of sale fell after the end of the period the accounts had to be submitted to which dc said the efl had known about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortlandOwl Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Who cares. More important stuff going on at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waddlesdiamondlights Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Beauchief Owl said: Hull sold their best two players in January, they deserve to go down. Horrible owners! Exactly Hull and boro have premiership players as assets to sell to avoid ffp we have to use our assett(the ground) to avoid ffp. Is hardly cheating as expressed by some people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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