@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 As I write this the new Owls Trust will meet fans at Crookes Working Men’s Club this Monday night to put together a board, rules, appoint directors etc and have an initial talk about what’s needed, aims and objectives etc. They hope to open dialogue with the chairman as a representative of you and I. They will be aligned to the FSA (football supporters association) who pushes its members to own shares in the club and a place on the SWFC board. so.... Are you for or against this idea/group? Do we need this group right now? Will the chairman acknowledge the group and really listen to them or will he view it as an annoyance and ignore it? Is the shares/place on the board aspect a winner? What did we learn from the old Owls Trust, Wednesdayite or even WISA (one of WISA’s directors is behind this new group) Will fans accept this group as their representative? The new group doesn’t have existing channels of communication to the fanbase so how will it successfully reach ALL fans with their news/updates/reports from each meeting with the chairman? If shares/place on the board is a key goal for the group will Chansiri accept and welcome this? Will you be going tomorrow night and are you getting involved? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 For it. We really seem to have no voice right now and anyone willing and attempting to make change in the right way has my support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, 0114 said: For it. We really seem to have no voice right now and anyone willing and attempting to make change in the right way has my support. What about the points I’ve raised above? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Numbers will be reduced sadly I’d have thought given all circumstances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 It can't do any harm, it doesn't seem to have galvanised the posters on here. Would be surprised be over twenty turned up especially in the present climate. For it to have any success then it needs to be recognised by the club. Hope they get it off the ground though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, torres said: Numbers will be reduced sadly I’d have thought given all circumstances Still going ahead though. The Owls Trusts first big decision is to congregate people in a nice warm pub. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Still going ahead though. The Owls Trusts first big decision is to congregate people in a nice warm pub. If they had anything about them they should cancel or do a quick Q&A over social media or if possible through here somehow until it’s easier for everyone to attend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: It can't do any harm, it doesn't seem to have galvanised the posters on here. Would be surprised be over twenty turned up especially in the present climate. For it to have any success then it needs to be recognised by the club. Hope they get it off the ground though. What did you know of WISA, the old Owls Trust and Wednesdayite? Any similarities you can see between those times and now to justify another fans group being established? If Chansiri doesn’t recognise the group will they look to embarrass him publically through press releases etc questioning him formally and if so will he react in a way that is detrimental to the whole fanbase? (obvs looking for opinion only as there are no real facts yet either way) Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: What did you know of WISA, the old Owls Trust and Wednesdayite? Any similarities you can see between those times and now to justify another fans group being established? If Chansiri doesn’t recognise the group will they look to embarrass him publically through press releases etc questioning him formally and if so will he react in a way that is detrimental to the whole fanbase? (obvs looking for opinion only as there are no real facts yet either way) I did join Wednesdayite but I never got involved, can't even remember why I joined. They need someone to spearhead the group who really knows the ropes, good at PR and especially knows his way around football politics. You seem the perfect person for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Just now, Inspector Lestrade said: I did join Wednesdayite but I never got involved, can't even remember why I joined. They need someone to spearhead the group who really knows the ropes, good at PR and especially knows his way around football politics. You seem the perfect person for the job. Not a chance Our fans despise fans groups with a vicious passion and I don’t have the time nor inclination to get involved with yet another one. Fans don’t like a fans group representing fans that’s for sure - seen that clarified so often by angry supporters too often Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 I know I’ll get negged to death for posting this but whenever has a Sheffield Wednesday Supporters Group ever worked? And the reason they never work is because it’s like a normal day on here where no one can agree on anything, there’s backbiting, people taking the p!$$ and a general apathy that nothing positive will ever happen. Also because of this you’ll probably never get a proper working relationship with the club because as before the club will probably not take the group seriously or more than likely see them as a unnecessary nuisance? We like to take the p!$$ out of supporters of other clubs that protest against their clubs but in truth we’re the real joke. Feel free to neg away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: I know I’ll get negged to death for posting this but whenever has a Sheffield Wednesday Supporters Group ever worked? And the reason they never work is because it’s like a normal day on here where no one can agree on anything, there’s backbiting, people taking the p!$$ and a general apathy that nothing positive will ever happen. Also because of this you’ll probably never get a proper working relationship with the club because as before the club will probably not take the group seriously or more than likely see them as a unnecessary nuisance? We like to take the p!$$ out of supporters of other clubs that protest against their clubs but in truth we’re the real joke. Feel free to neg away. Could this new group be different though? Is there anything it could do differently from previous Owls Trust or WISA etc that means it could succeed or is it destined to follow the exact same path to oblivion and hate from the general fanbase? What could it do differently to change your viewpoint? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Has this fans group even spoken to those who ran previous groups like Wednesdayite to gain their experience and previous pros and cons and pitfalls and how to avoid them? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 1 minute ago, sw1867 said: I get what you are saying however the alternative is to sit back, do nothing and let the clubs slide continue unabated. A new supporters group may achieve nothing but it certainly can’t make things worse. What if Chansiri sees it as a threat and starts acting in ways that is detremental to the whole fanbase? It could shut the chairman off completely to the fanbase if he sees their calls for shares and a place on the board as a threat and the views of the whole fanbase Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: What about the points I’ve raised above? Didn’t realise it was a questionnaire. They haven’t even started yet? I think it’s right to see where they go first before condemning the idea of what they aim to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Got to be for the idea, we need a strategy to implement the fans ideas within the club too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 For Probably He may acknowledge it but will largely ignore it No Cronies ruin these type of groups For a while (see last point) Tinterweb I don't think he will No and no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Chansiri will have none of it. It's his way or no way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, @owlstalk said: What about the points I’ve raised above? I'm for it, anything that helps the Club to engage with fans has to be looked on in the positive. As for the points you raise. 2 points. Don't want shares/place on the board, even if offered could turn political, and Chansiri would probably see this as a threat, and not a good place to start dialogue. If it's non political and does not have agenda's, more to help the Club than be an hindrance then why not give it a platform on here, maybe in the Boardroom section, they could pay for the privilege through a donation towards running costs, I'm sure people would like to hear what questions were asked, and the outcome of the meetings, it would in my opinion give this site a real boost in traffic, which can only be for the good. Edited March 15, 2020 by daleblue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballTyper Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Wish the people involved good luck. I won't be involved myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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