Frank_Lucas Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 56 minutes ago, Big Jack said: I blame bar steward meat eaters. If we all ate a mostly plant based diet then it would stop the killing of a planet and ourselves. Time for society to face facts Carnivorous(Coronavirus) SARS, MERS, Swine flu, salmonella, mad cow disease....... Have you not got the message yet !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Anyone thinking this season will be finished later on isnt thinking it through The first expected peak of Coronavirus is May Players contracting it won’t be able to get fit enough to play, contracts are up, and again the general public needs to be well enough to staff the matches and that’s not even before things like attendances, public transport etc etc Not a chance this season will get finished even in June or July No chance whatsoever It really depends on whether the current thinking and restrictions continue. It's clear the sporting authorities have gone against government advice, which was itself based on the chief medical officers' advice on Thursday. The commercial world is driving the agenda and governments are playing catch up trying to look in control. It will have to be seen whether the current thinking will prove correct or whether it didn't really influence the infected numbers overall, and how the authorities react. I suspect advice/restrictions will change on a daily/weekly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc-dan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Owls-Fan said: So if this season is cancelled, all clubs will need to refund supporters a proportion of their season ticket money, membership and tv money and sponsorship. Not exactly great for the clubs to lose that income - especially if they have to keep paying players wages till they expire at end of June As ex-footballers like Jenas and Cahill agree with me, we have to finish this season’s league matches even if that’s in June and July or August. Then start next season in September or October. Whenever these things can happen. cancelling domestic cup competitions this and next season will help with fixture congestion - if next season has to be played from October to May. There will be ways to ensure the league keeps its integrity. Just because things were been done a certain way in the 1940’s doesn’t mean it should happen now. In my opinion football should be suspended until the Coronavirus is dealt with and then this season needs to be completed. Agreed. Just bin off cup competitions next season and make it a shorter season. Could even reduce fixtures next season, up to half. So we could even start next season in the new year if needed and make it an abbreviated one. This one has gone much too far to cancel it, would be an insult to clubs battling for promotions and Liverpool obviously. It must be completed first before anything else. Obviously I'd much prefer it to be cancelled, due to our predicament. But I think the fair and right thing to do is ensure it gets played out to completion. Edited March 14, 2020 by swfc-dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, Animis said: It really depends on whether the current thinking and restrictions continue. It's clear the sporting authorities have gone against government advice, which was itself based on the chief medical officers' advice on Thursday. The commercial world is driving the agenda and governments are playing catch up trying to look in control. It will have to be seen whether the current thinking will prove correct or whether it didn't really influence the infected numbers overall, and how the authorities react. I suspect advice/restrictions will change on a daily/weekly basis. Still no chance this season will be completed Im happy to bet my stash of 180 packs of loo roll Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Season ticket holders don’t need to be refunded Not sure where this idea has come from Some clubs MAY refund fans pro rata but they won’t be legally obliged to do so IF the money went towards the "normal" staff at SWFC they can keep my refund Im not subsidising overpaid players though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerwyldesmullet Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) If we aren’t playing football at this stage there is no way we are going to be clear anytime before Autumn I think the obvious solution has already been proposed. Stop this season now, award any baubles due but don’t have relegation from Prem - just two come up making a 22 and do the same down the leagues. Prem clubs don’t go into League Cup next year to make the space. Play offs are a lottery anyway - as well we know! Simples. Edited March 14, 2020 by Rogerwyldesmullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Still no chance this season will be completed Im happy to bet my stash of 180 packs of loo roll I wonder if Sky said to the PL, 'play or we don't pay you', a different approach would be considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, Animis said: I wonder if Sky said to the PL, 'play or we don't pay you', a different approach would be considered. Even then I just can’t see life and society being in any position to accommodate it Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, swfc-dan said: Agreed. Just bin off cup competitions next season and make it a shorter season. Could even reduce fixtures next season, up to half. So we could even start next season in the new year if needed and make it an abbreviated one. This one has gone much too far to cancel it, would be an insult to clubs battling for promotions and Liverpool obviously. It must be completed first before anything else. Obviously I'd much prefer it to be cancelled, due to our predicament. But I think the fair and right thing to do is ensure it gets played out to completion. Exactly right, I just don’t understand the logic of binning off a season that hasn’t finished in favour of one that hasn’t started. Move the goal posts next season so it’s a fair start for everyone. The amount of teams who will be peed off with this season being abandoned will be huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: See my reply above Season ticket holders aren’t due for any refunds due to force majeur or act of god. Fair enough, just think it’s better for everyone for this season to be completed or it will leave more disappointments than appreciations 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, Owls-Fan said: Exactly right, I just don’t understand the logic of binning off a season that hasn’t finished in favour of one that hasn’t started. Move the goal posts next season so it’s a fair start for everyone. The amount of teams who will be peed off with this season being abandoned will be huge Again forget what you WANT and look instead at what might be possible This virus hasn’t even really started to hit yet. Follow the logic through and then show me how it would be possible to finish this season off because I can’t see a cat in hells chance of it Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Just now, @owlstalk said: Even then I just can’t see life and society being in any position to accommodate it I'm not sure - the government want a 'managed' curved peak throughout the Spring and Summer, saying sporting events prevented little risk. The sporting authorities have reacted in a way that the chief medical officer didn't want - i.e. mass panic and draconian measures now; at the very start of that curve. They wanted a gradually ramping up of measures that had the most impact, based on people's ability to manage the impact of these measures and not get bored or fatigued by it all. The government are likely to force large events to cancel - Glastonbury etc. which I understand is simply down to the ability of the medical services being able to support them, not the risk of infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Again forget what you WANT and look instead at what might be possible This virus hasn’t even really started to hit yet. Follow the logic through and then show me how it would be possible to finish this season off because I can’t see a cat in hells chance of it Eh it’s not what I want it’s what’s fair for all clubs. Good luck telling all the clubs who like their current position this season that it’s being cancelled. Jenas reckons it would be about 50% who disagree with cancelling it. So it will be interesting what happens next week Edited March 14, 2020 by Owls-Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelcityowlsfan Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 Doesn’t matter what clubs think it’s people’s lives we are talking about here. Goes well above football or any other sport. If the best option is to void the season and move onto next season as you were, then that’s what will need to happen. Who are they going to sue, God? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 3 hours ago, FreshOwl said: This will all be forgotten in a couple of months Like it has been with all the other virus related epidemics over the years But as humans we love to speculate and anticipate the worst as it makes our lives more exciting Well it's one point of view. Not one I agree with but you are entitled to your opinion. It depends on your age I suppose, if you are young and fit you can probably get it and it won't be too bad. If you are older it depends on how much you like high stakes gambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owl_83 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 No way can they cancel the season. I'm sorry but there would be riots. Can you imagine telling Liverpool fans that they haven't won the title. No way can they just hand clubs promotion. Championship, fair enough. Its Leeds and West Brom. But anyone from 1st to 7th in League One could win the title. What happens if the 7th team has played all of the top 13 and only has the bottom 10 to play. You could argue that they are better placed to go up than the team in 2nd who has all of the top teams to play. Football would be finished if they don't complete the season. Sporting Integrity requires it. Next season will be really different though. All bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Burnsie said: Who did? When? Over the past many years they have been saying the opposite due to over prescription... Besides, COVID-19 is a virus sorry I meant antibiotics wouldn't be able to . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, steelcityowlsfan said: Doesn’t matter what clubs think it’s people’s lives we are talking about here. Goes well above football or any other sport. If the best option is to void the season and move onto next season as you were, then that’s what will need to happen. Who are they going to sue, God? I understand the rather safe than sorry approach - but the football authorities have gone against the advice of the government. Fair enough, this advice may change, but the precedent is wide-spread as the government will want to control this virus throughout this year and they want people to be infected, albeit in their control way. When the wider world ignores the medical and government advice, it becomes a real free-for-all. I noticed Notts County were playing at home today in the Nationwide league - probably over 500 fans expected. If it's so important games are cancelled, why is this one? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
31Dec1966 Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, steelcityowlsfan said: Doesn’t matter what clubs think it’s people’s lives we are talking about here. Goes well above football or any other sport. If the best option is to void the season and move onto next season as you were, then that’s what will need to happen. Who are they going to sue, God? There is no chance of resuming this season. Peak virus is expected to be in 10 weeks (playoff time), things are already accelerating. 4th April is out of the question. Whatever anyone thinks the season is over. Revert to 1st August 2019 placings and start again in August assuming the worst is over. Also any FFP rules will have to be waived as EFL clubs (and not just us) will be paying absurd wages to players without any income. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, prowl said: Well it's one point of view. Not one I agree with but you are entitled to your opinion. It depends on your age I suppose, if you are young and fit you can probably get it and it won't be too bad. If you are older it depends on how much you like high stakes gambling. Like all flu-like illnesses then, the old are always the most vulnerable, nothings changed there, like all the other epidemics of the past. The media are going on like it’ll wipe the human race. if the older generation have any sense they’ll stay indoors, but even today I’ve caught a train and most bloody people on it are senior Edited March 14, 2020 by FreshOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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