Freshfish Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 ...who’s decision has it been to play Bannan and Pelupessy as a two man central midfield Mr Manager Monk ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 It's like Monk has cut up a copy of 'Decision Weekly' and simply collated a hap-hazard ransom note for the hostage Bates, who's tied up in the grounds man porta cabin at Middlewood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marble Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Putting the Monk aspect of this to one side, is there a single poster on this forum that thought 'get in there' when Bates was signed? He looked a crap signing at the time & he's changed nobody's mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 hour ago, donoghue said: Clearly not good enough exactly there’s nothing vague there...Bates isn’t good enough. Ta-ra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 If he’s not good enough and he’s not playing why didn’t we send him back and save his wages? Bearing in mind we’re skint. Could we have done this in January and brought in a midfielder? Or did Monk not think to make this decision? Does he only make one at a time and then lay down for a rest for a month or two? Dreading close season when he rebuilds the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Go on then Mortimer, why the red arrow? 10000 words of utter cack going round in circles. Edited March 12, 2020 by stanningtonowl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, stanningtonowl said: If he’s not good enough and he’s not playing why didn’t we send him back and save his wages? Bearing in mind we’re skint. Could we have done this in January and brought in a midfielder? Or did Monk not think to make this decision? Does he only make one at a time and then lay down for a rest for a month or two? Dreading close season when he rebuilds the team. Loan arrangements for footballers aren't like returning a pair of trousers that don't fit. If his club don't want him back, and why would they if they were happy to send him away for a season in the first place, then it's tough. And that's even if Monk is the one making such decisions, which is debatable at the very least. But we're now at that point with the manager where literally everything he says or does is like sounding the bugle for the hounds to chase the fox. 6 minutes ago, stanningtonowl said: Go on then Mortimer, why the red arrow? Never realised I was required to file a report any time I click on one of those things. Edited March 12, 2020 by DJMortimer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, DJMortimer said: Loan arrangements for footballers aren't like returning a pair of trousers that don't fit. If his club don't want him back, and why would they if they were happy to send him away for a season in the first place, then it's tough. And that's even if Monk is the one making such decisions, which is debatable at the very least. But we're now at that point with the manager where literally everything he says or does is like sounding the bugle for the hounds to chase the fox. Never realised I was required to file a report any time I click on one of those things. Very condescending even by your standards. Clearly if the loan is not working there is an option to send back even if a fee is involved. The team is crying out for midfielders since he binned Hutchinson off. Perhaps he should have made a decision to bring a midfielder in bearing in mind he brought how many forwards in in January. There must be a saving on Hutchinson’s wages as he has been sent away. We wouldn’t pay him in full would we? As a football manager his decisions are analysed. That’s the nature of the beast with game he is in. My opinion is his decisions are not very good. My decisions at work are analysed and if people think they are wrong they say so. I’m a grown up I can accept that. I don’t earn what Monk earns. You don’t need to file a report every time you red arrow but knowing your penchant for a lengthy wordy reply I was surprised you missed the opportunity. Monk must know the end is nigh because the only time you surface is to defend the indefensible, Jones, Carlos, Jos. Everyone you’ve backed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, stanningtonowl said: Go on then Mortimer, why the red arrow? 10000 words of utter cack going round in circles. Uninformed, speculative, opinionated and strident prejudice is obviously vastly superior? Such is the social media age. 1 minute ago, stanningtonowl said: Clearly if the loan is not working there is an option to send back even if a fee is involved. Is that so? I've no idea about this deal, but I do know that plenty of times parent clubs have had no interest in having the player back early. And it also makes an assumption about our current financial status which to say the least has shown the signs of being somewhat strained. 5 minutes ago, stanningtonowl said: The team is crying out for midfielders since he binned Hutchinson off. Perhaps he should have made a decision to bring a midfielder in bearing in mind he brought how many forwards in in January. There must be a saving on Hutchinson’s wages as he has been sent away. We wouldn’t pay him in full would we? More guesswork about so many things, some of which may have little to do with Monk. 6 minutes ago, stanningtonowl said: As a football manager his decisions are analysed. That’s the nature of the beast with game he is in. My opinion is his decisions are not very good. My decisions at work are analysed and if people think they are wrong they say so. I’m a grown up I can accept that. I don’t earn what Monk earns. If that's all it was then fine. He's hardly covering himself in glory. But it isn't. We see this EVERY time a manager has the tide of support turning against him. If he's performing that badly then surely the evidence is there without the need for piling up all this speculative and irrelevant stuff? The ad hominem whinging doesn't help your cause either, but hey ho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 I can't understand why Monk just doesn't come out with a statement along the lines of "all players have the opportunity to play by working hard in training and impressing. The players who played in the last game have the job of playing well to keep the shirt." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ronnie Starling said: I can't understand why Monk just doesn't come out with a statement along the lines of "all players have the opportunity to play by working hard in training and impressing. The players who played in the last game have the job of playing well to keep the shirt." It would be nice if that was possible but when you are dealing with a player on loan I think the manager has to be exceptionally careful. Say anything that runs the player down and you might find the parent club is on your case. You might be affecting their chances of selling the player or reduce the fee they might get. Do that a couple of times and you might find it exceedingly difficult to get loans in future. I'm not saying that is the case here but that's how I'd play it if I was in the hot seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 So then you have to think is bates a monk signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr. Chow said: So then you have to think is bates a monk signing. It's up for debate how much input Monk has had into signings since being the manager, never mind those made weeks before he even arrived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) Monk definitely doesn’t like something about certain players. Westwood, Hutch and also Bates. Big characters? Players that speak their mind? Don’t know enough about Bates to say what he is like as a person or a player for that matter. Edited March 12, 2020 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Freshfish said: ...who’s decision has it been to play Bannan and Pelupessy as a two man central midfield Mr Manager Monk ? Exactly, why choose swordfish and mackerel when you can have salmon and tuna... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 He’s made so many great decisions so far, we should trust him on this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shandypants Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Monk said: "You have to make these decisions. Some players are involved and some players are in and out of squads. These are the decisions that I have to make. “Someone will always be left out, that’s just the nature of when you have the squad of this size. "You make decisions on the players who you think are best to play and he [Bates] has found himself in a position where he has not been involved in the squads. "But those are the decisions that I have to make; you do that in every single season at every single club so there is nothing strange about that. "It is just the decisions I have to make." That’s just code for “I think he’s w4nk”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Kopparberg said: No CB on the bench vs Brentford Wonder if Fox would move there if someone got injured... or Osaze. I'd prefer Fox there instead of Lees at the moment, he's done well at centre half when called upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirstys Salopettes Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 2 hours ago, DJMortimer said: Loan arrangements for footballers aren't like returning a pair of trousers that don't fit. correct But at least we can send da Cruz back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 Never known a club sign so many players, pay their wages, and never play them. Doesn't take a lot to work out why we are up shiit creek. Hell of a business model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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