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2 minutes ago, cowl said:

 

If I don't believe either of the statements you've attributed to the fans, does it mean I'm not a fan?

No. 

 

When it comes to this issue you appear to have a blind spot and/or completely miss the point. 

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50 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said:

It's a pity that players who under perform cant be made redundant like the Normal people of this world, then SOME of these players could have replaced by better professionals.

We'd be having to enter a 5-a-side league! 

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3 minutes ago, billyblack said:

I agree with that.

 

However if its their antics that caused that situation then so be it. 

 

Will be glad when this season is over so all these lot can just feck off. Sick of reading about them.

Yep. 

 

Westwood and Hutchinson are probably one part of a much, much bigger problem within the club. 

 

Any club where two senior players are getting banished has issues. 

 

The fact this happened twice is all the more damming, both on them and the club too. 

 

What a farce. 

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2 minutes ago, SiJ said:

No. 

 

When it comes to this issue you appear to have a blind spot and/or completely miss the point. 

 

And you seem to find it plausible that problem players once excluded continue to cause a problem.

 

Just what is it do you think they're doing that they could exert so much mayhem.

 

Gullible.

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The problem with the club won't be solved until Doyen and their agents have nothing more to do with the club...if DC can arrange that then we can move on. I'm not sure he can

 

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Just now, cowl said:

 

And you seem to find it plausible that problem players once excluded continue to cause a problem.

 

Just what is it do you think they're doing that they could exert so much mayhem.

 

Gullible.

 

 

Imagine your workplace

You get on with your workmates (some of em anyway) and go on social nights out, you invite them to your house to play FIFA, and go out to clubs with them.

A new manager comes to your work and things kick off and those two mates of yours are sacked


Do you/they immediately cease all contact with you?

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1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

Imagine your workplace

You get on with your workmates (some of em anyway) and go on social nights out, you invite them to your house to play FIFA, and go out to clubs with them.

A new manager comes to your work and things kick off and those two mates of yours are sacked


Do you/they immediately cease all contact with you?

 

So are we getting rid of anyone that is Hutchinson's mate in the summer too?

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1 minute ago, cowl said:

 

And you seem to find it plausible that problem players once excluded continue to cause a problem.

 

Just what is it do you think they're doing that they could exert so much mayhem.

 

Gullible.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the last two seasons these two have been excluded from the first team which has coincided with a huge drop off in terms of form/performances. 

 

Now, whilst the two are good players, they ain't that flipping good. 

 

Players still talk, they still socialise. Have you never encountered a malcontent at work?

 

You just can't accept the fact that two of your favs might not be as squeaky clean as you want to believe. 

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Just now, cowl said:

 

So are we getting rid of anyone that is Hutchinson's mate in the summer too?

Probably. 

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50 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said:

Before this comment gets deleted (again) 

 

You could always try posting without the ranty swear words and bypassing the site swear filter. There's kids on here.

 

Just a suggestion.

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Just now, cowl said:

 

So are we getting rid of anyone that is Hutchinson's mate in the summer too?

 

 

I'm staggered you concluded that from my make believe scenario. (that I deliberately dumbed down so you might understand it)

 

lol

 

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4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

Imagine your workplace

You get on with your workmates (some of em anyway) and go on social nights out, you invite them to your house to play FIFA, and go out to clubs with them.

A new manager comes to your work and things kick off and those two mates of yours are sacked


Do you/they immediately cease all contact with you?

Maybe not but they don't try and disrupt MY work or they'd befucked

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2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

Imagine your workplace

You get on with your workmates (some of em anyway) and go on social nights out, you invite them to your house to play FIFA, and go out to clubs with them.

A new manager comes to your work and things kick off and those two mates of yours are sacked


Do you/they immediately cease all contact with you?

I'm a self employed sole trader, so if that happened at work think I'd need some medication to stop the voices talking to me

 lol

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What ever the naughty 2 said to Monk doesn’t matter now. We’re in the middle of a relegation battle. I couldn't care less about Monks pride or whatever. Play them 2, get a few results then ship them out in the summer. 

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1 minute ago, S72 Owl said:

What ever the naughty 2 said to Monk doesn’t matter now. We’re in the middle of a relegation battle. I couldn't care less about Monks pride or whatever. Play them 2, get a few results then ship them out in the summer. 

 

 

Genuinely mindblowing

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1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

I'm staggered you concluded that from my make believe scenario. (that I deliberately dumbed down so you might understand it)

 

lol

 

Wasting your time. 

 

I believe he is the President of the Sam Hutchinson fanclub and is chair of the "Free the Hillsborough two (and Bates)" campaign. 

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1 minute ago, SiJ said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the last two seasons these two have been excluded from the first team which has coincided with a huge drop off in terms of form/performances. 

 

Now, whilst the two are good players, they ain't that flipping good. 

 

Players still talk, they still socialise. Have you never encountered a malcontent at work?

 

You just can't accept the fact that two of your favs might not be as squeaky clean as you want to believe. 

 

I don't doubt for a moment they're not ‘squeaky clean’ - I've said as much before.

 

This is all about Monk's decision to exclude them by way of a solution. This was his problem solving. He's the manager, if he couldn't forsee the fact that Hutchinson has mates within the squad and that'd be a problem if he just excludes him then the Monk's solution here is as much in question as anything else.

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Just now, cowl said:

 

I don't doubt for a moment they're not ‘squeaky clean’ - I've said as much before.

 

This is all about Monk's decision to exclude them by way of a solution. This was his problem solving. He's the manager, if he couldn't forsee the fact that Hutchinson has mates within the squad and that'd be a problem if he just excludes him then the Monk's solution here is as much in question as anything else.

 

 

So you are saying that our players can do ANYTHING so long as they play ok on matchdays?

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The depths of Apologism our supporters will sink to, to excuse unacceptable behaviour or performance, never ceases to astound me.

 

 

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1 minute ago, SiJ said:

Wasting your time. 

 

I believe he is the President of the Sam Hutchinson fanclub and is chair of the "Free the Hillsborough two (and Bates)" campaign. 

 

Beyond thick.

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