Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Also if it is the case that the player has chucked his toys out of the pram because he wont be getting a new deal, the club is well within their rights to make this public and it would be useful to do so to take some of the pressure off of the manager in relation to this apparent selection issue. Wether the club want to do that is down to DC, knowing Chansiri he will probably be tryna sit on the fence , defend his manager while attempting to convince SH all is well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Royal_D said: Wether the club want to do that is down to DC, knowing Chansiri he will probably be tryna sit on the fence , defend his manager while attempting to convince SH all is well Chansiri can hardly try and convince Hutchinson of that though if as you say he has told him he won't be getting a new contract. If Hutchinson has made himself unavailable for selection then he should be fined every time he does so ( this may already be the case). If this is the case then Monk when asked should say that Sam Hutchinson has made himself unavailable for selection rather than giving nondescript answers like he knows what a successful dressing room looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) No one has said that the inclusion of Hutchinson and Westwood would make us win every game. What is indisputable is that since the 2 players have been excluded from all 1st team matters things have gone royally tit5 up. Edited March 9, 2020 by BIG D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Chansiri can hardly try and convince Hutchinson of that though if as you say he has told him he won't be getting a new contract. If Hutchinson has made himself unavailable for selection then he should be fined every time he does so ( this may already be the case). If this is the case then Monk when asked should say that Sam Hutchinson has made himself unavailable for selection rather than giving nondescript answers like he knows what a successful dressing room looks like. I’m pretty sure he could be sacked if that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: Chansiri can hardly try and convince Hutchinson of that though if as you say he has told him he won't be getting a new contract. If Hutchinson has made himself unavailable for selection then he should be fined every time he does so ( this may already be the case). If this is the case then Monk when asked should say that Sam Hutchinson has made himself unavailable for selection rather than giving nondescript answers like he knows what a successful dressing room looks like. Suppose I worded that wrong, Chansiri isn’t the type to throw a player under the bus , he will still protect SH even if they have had a row He was pushed very very hard to speak about the George Hirst situation, and still to the end hoped he would u-Turn and sign a deal , and there was a lot of the brown stuff got thrown about when that was kicking off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Royal_D said: No I don’t agree really, on form he can play a part in a good side at this level , too often in a Wednesday shirt I’ve seen him sit far too deep and disrupt our whole attacking balance, but it’s all about opinions , not saying I haven’t seen him have games where he’s looked like a world beater because I have , and have throughly enjoyed it Truth is , Massimo Luongo is a far superior all round player Did you say you couldn’t see us winning another game when Fletcher got injured ? Our only striker who looks like can get regular goals at this level Can't argue with that, sadly he seems to be developing Abdi's fitness record. The lack of updates on what the issue is doesn't help and Reach's toe must have dropped off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Royal_D said: Suppose I worded that wrong, Chansiri isn’t the type to throw a player under the bus , he will still protect SH even if they have had a row He was pushed very very hard to speak about the George Hirst situation, and still to the end hoped he would u-Turn and sign a deal , and there was a lot of the brown stuff got thrown about when that was kicking off Fair point, by taking this approach he is not doing the manager or the players any favours though as they are getting flack for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, hirstyboywonder said: Fair point, by taking this approach he is not doing the manager or the players any favours though as they are getting flack for this. Cant disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Do Hutchinson & Westwood improve our starting 11 - yes absolutely they do Do Hutchinson & Westwood improve the squad - yes they do Would we pick up more points with Hutchinson & Westwood - pretty certain we would I couldn’t give a crap if they are “bad influences” - Cole & Sheringham hated each other but managed to play on the same pitch End of the day I’d rather Monk swallow his pride and play these 2, than sleepwalk to relegation Deal with them at the end of the season , not now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Markowski77 said: Do Hutchinson & Westwood improve our starting 11 - yes absolutely they do Do Hutchinson & Westwood improve the squad - yes they do Would we pick up more points with Hutchinson & Westwood - pretty certain we would I couldn’t give a crap if they are “bad influences” - Cole & Sheringham hated each other but managed to play on the same pitch End of the day I’d rather Monk swallow his pride and play these 2, than sleepwalk to relegation Deal with them at the end of the season , not now And here we go again.. This could be the first ever never ending thread Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, BIG D said: No one has said that the inclusion of Hutchinson and Westwood would make us win every game. What is indisputable is that since the 2 players have been excluded from all 1st team matters things have gone royally tit5 up. And that the last time they were excluded, our form picked up instantly on their return. The truth is, if they were recalled, nothing might change. But it's a bold move and a massive risk to our club to just assume, given the facts about our form over the last two seasons when they haven't played, that this would be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: And here we go again.. This could be the first ever never ending thread ....... but the site is about having a laugh, and you have to laugh at some posters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: And here we go again.. This could be the first ever never ending thread I’ve not read back all the way - if he has gone he has gone , nothing we can do. But there’s no doubt they would improve our starting 11, do you not think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Markowski77 said: Do Hutchinson & Westwood improve our starting 11 - yes absolutely they do Do Hutchinson & Westwood improve the squad - yes they do Would we pick up more points with Hutchinson & Westwood - pretty certain we would I couldn’t give a crap if they are “bad influences” - Cole & Sheringham hated each other but managed to play on the same pitch End of the day I’d rather Monk swallow his pride and play these 2, than sleepwalk to relegation Deal with them at the end of the season , not now Keep seeing this on various threads, not sure how people know it's Monks pride that needs swallowing. Could it be the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: And here we go again.. This could be the first ever never ending thread Mainly caused by you Neil. Talking like you're itk when you're actually as oblivious as the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Just now, archieswfc said: Mainly caused by you Neil. Talking like you're itk when you're actually as oblivious as the rest of us. Ive already stated clearly that I’m not ITK Its not my fault if you’re misunderstanding Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markowski77 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Hookowl said: Keep seeing this on various threads, not sure how people know it's Monks pride that needs swallowing. Could it be the players? Either way it’s f’in pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 If he was being allowed to leave (as I believe he was) it's madness we had no replacement lined up either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: And here we go again.. This could be the first ever never ending thread It might have been if @Royal_D hadn't provided some perspective and we'd have been left to you reporting on whether Hutchinson's curtains had been closed recently! As for Westwood, his situation appears to be somewhat different in that he has over a year left on his contract so is seemingly more down to a managerial choice. Persisting with Dawson is doing nobody any good at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, modboy said: If he was being allowed to leave (as I believe he was) it's madness we had no replacement lined up either way true Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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