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6 hours ago, WalthamOwl said:


To me it just seems crazy telling them now, at least wait until the season has ended. Heard about any others being told the same? 

Why?

The players, would be knocking on the door...err, my contract is nearly up, am I getting a new one?..or should I ask my agent to find me another club.

 

I'll let you know end of the season, I'll take that as a no then...

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1 minute ago, sherlyegg said:

Why?

The players, would be knocking on the door...err, my contract is nearly up, am I getting a new one?..or should I ask my agent to find me another club.

 

I'll let you know end of the season, I'll take that as a no then...


why? Maybe they wouldn’t be performing like they are now and perhaps would be trying to do everything possible to earn a new deal. I would be very surprised if these players get anywhere near as good a deal at another club. 

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15 hours ago, S72 Owl said:

Lots of contracts up in the summer, a big chance to refresh the squad. Forgetting who the manager is for a minute what do you think the recruitment team should be looking to do in the summer. My view is this;

 

Release:

Jones

Hutchinson

Lee

Pelupessy

Winnall

Nuhui

 

Loans sent back;

Windass

Bates

De Cruz

Murphy

Windass

 

Sell;

Van Aken - Small fee

Lees - 1 million

Odobajo - Free

Reach - £3-5 million (if not then keep)

Rhodes - Free

 

New contracts;

Fox

Fletcher (smaller wage)

FF (smaller wage if not release)

 

That leaves;

GK- New First choice keeper

GK - Wildsmith

GK - Dawson

RB - New first choice RB

RB - Palmer

LB - Fox 

LB - Penney

CB - Iorfa

CB - Borner

CB - Experienced CB

CB - Young CB

CM - Big Strong Ball Winner

CM - Box to box midfielder with energy

CM - Adcanced playmaker

CM - Luongo

CM - Bannan

Winger/Forward - Harris 

Winger/Forward - FF

Winger/Forward - New

Winger/Forward - New

CF - Fletcher

CF - Mobile strong CF

CF - Young fast and likes to run in behind

 

Thats 11 new signings I feel we need, keeping 12 of this squad. 

 

If only the real world was like football manager.

Let's see what league we are in first, I can just see the likes of Fletcher and Forestieri beating a path to play in League one.

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I’d have Van Acken in the squad over Lees all day, every day.

Huge potential but threw into the first team too quick! 
Needless to say many fans gave him grief after losing his confidence. 
That said he’s in a safe place at the moment. Who’d want to come back to Hillsborough?!

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3 hours ago, Blue and white said:

Let's see what league we are in first, I can just see the likes of Fletcher and Forestieri beating a path to play in League one.

I think your right about forestieri but Fletcher is coming to the end of his career and possible won't want to up root his family again he would be outstanding in L1.

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22 hours ago, S72 Owl said:

Lots of contracts up in the summer, a big chance to refresh the squad. Forgetting who the manager is for a minute what do you think the recruitment team should be looking to do in the summer. My view is this;

 

Release:

Jones

Hutchinson

Lee

Pelupessy

Winnall

Nuhui

 

Loans sent back;

Windass

Bates

De Cruz

Murphy

Windass

 

Sell;

Van Aken - Small fee

Lees - 1 million

Odobajo - Free

Reach - £3-5 million (if not then keep)

Rhodes - Free

 

New contracts;

Fox

Fletcher (smaller wage)

FF (smaller wage if not release)

 

That leaves;

GK- New First choice keeper

GK - Wildsmith

GK - Dawson

RB - New first choice RB

RB - Palmer

LB - Fox 

LB - Penney

CB - Iorfa

CB - Borner

CB - Experienced CB

CB - Young CB

CM - Big Strong Ball Winner

CM - Box to box midfielder with energy

CM - Adcanced playmaker

CM - Luongo

CM - Bannan

Winger/Forward - Harris 

Winger/Forward - FF

Winger/Forward - New

Winger/Forward - New

CF - Fletcher

CF - Mobile strong CF

CF - Young fast and likes to run in behind

 

Thats 11 new signings I feel we need, keeping 12 of this squad. 

 

If only the real world was like football manager.


This post just highlights what a mammoth task it will be to re-shape this squad which won’t be all achieved in 1 summer window. 
 

Right now, I don’t think the club are up to the job of starting afresh.

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I'd release all players out of contract with only Fox offered a new deal. I would want Hutch to have one but we know that aint going to happen..

 

The squad should be trimmed massively and for me we should be looking to retain the following only: Dawson, Wildsmith, Palmer, Borner, Iorfa, Fox, Luongo, Reach, Harris

 

Everyone else put up for sale with possibly only Rhodes and Moses (depending on where we are and who we can realistically bring in) given minutes with a view to being part of the first team squad

 

That would mean a significant overhaul in the summer to bring in at least 10-15 players if not more and also promoting youth


The rebuild started under Jos but stuttered before we opted to go back to type and play experience.

 

We need a massive refresh and this summer is it. Do I trust the current incumbents, Monk and DC to bring in the right type of players .. not really given the evidence of this season for Monk and this and past for DC ..


Actually when I think about it more, I'm slightly concerned in which direction we are going to be heading in and whether we'll do a Leeds/Portsmouth/Forest/Sheff U etc and struggle down the leagues before coming back up in years time ...

 

Good grief :0(

 

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If we were a dog, we’d have been put down by now. 
 

Get rid of all players, then sign no one because of an embargo / chairman not being arsed. 
 

might as well have a lottery before the game for fans to play 

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6 minutes ago, Rogers said:

If we were a dog, we’d have been put down by now. 
 

Get rid of all players, then sign no one because of an embargo / chairman not being arsed. 
 

might as well have a lottery before the game for fans to play 

I’ll throw my hat in for defensive midfield. I’d fancy myself as an improvement on Pelupessy

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23 hours ago, Spookone said:

I do now think there is a chance we will start next season in L1 so we would probably have to do as you suggest.

Id do so in the Championship. Bannan is a waist of time as a CM and don't think he'll fancy playing wide left and although Fletcher has been good for 18 months he's 33 on a big wage.

 

That said, can we get better ?!

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On 08/03/2020 at 11:59, S72 Owl said:

Lots of contracts up in the summer, a big chance to refresh the squad. Forgetting who the manager is for a minute what do you think the recruitment team should be looking to do in the summer. My view is this;

 

Release:

Jones

Hutchinson

Lee

Pelupessy

Winnall

Nuhui

 

Loans sent back;

Windass

Bates

De Cruz

Murphy

Windass

 

Sell;

Van Aken - Small fee

Lees - 1 million

Odobajo - Free

Reach - £3-5 million (if not then keep)

Rhodes - Free

 

New contracts;

Fox

Fletcher (smaller wage)

FF (smaller wage if not release)

 

That leaves;

GK- New First choice keeper

GK - Wildsmith

GK - Dawson

RB - New first choice RB

RB - Palmer

LB - Fox 

LB - Penney

CB - Iorfa

CB - Borner

CB - Experienced CB

CB - Young CB

CM - Big Strong Ball Winner

CM - Box to box midfielder with energy

CM - Adcanced playmaker

CM - Luongo

CM - Bannan

Winger/Forward - Harris 

Winger/Forward - FF

Winger/Forward - New

Winger/Forward - New

CF - Fletcher

CF - Mobile strong CF

CF - Young fast and likes to run in behind

 

Thats 11 new signings I feel we need, keeping 12 of this squad. 

 

If only the real world was like football manager.

I'd sell Westwood, Bannan, Tom Lees and Rhodes.

Would offer new contracts to Fletcher and Fox. The rest I would be happy to see move on.

 

We will have to promote 4-6 youngsters into the first team squad from the U-23.

 

Free, small fees and loan players will need to make up the rest of the squad.

 

 

 

 

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