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8 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said:

Was he "the worst ever manager in our history" when we were playing well before Christmas or has he become that because numerous other factors have converged?


If he was great then, he is poo now.

 

He can’t have it both ways.

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Some people have short memories 

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He isn’t yet, but is on the correct trajectory. 

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15 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said:

Two 5-0 defeats already in 2020.... he is jusr flipping awful. 


Christ how long have you been going 😂

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Yes he got us to 3rd, but at the time we were literally about 3 points off 12th place. Since our bad run he’s shown nothing to suggest he’s capable of stopping the rot.

Usually if teams on a bad run a decent manager will go back to basics and make the defence tight. Our defence is probably the worst I’ve ever seen it. And I don’t mean just the back 4 when I say the defence. Oh and we have two former defenders coaching them.

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11 minutes ago, Mas said:


Christ how long have you been going 😂

 2 days

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I remember under Irvine in League One we were 2nd at Christmas (around when Mandaric came in too), but by the time February rolled round we were 12th, which is when he was sacked.

 

Megson really struggled at first when he came in, mind (4 home defeats in a row...)

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Pairs nicely with our worst owner in club history...

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The players deserve the majority of the blame not Monk. As soon as they cross the white line it’s up to them how much effort they put in. 

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39 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said:

Two 5-0 defeats already in 2020.... he is jusr flipping awful. 

Well one was at home the other away, so at least he's got has a well balanced squad! 

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40 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said:

Was he "the worst ever manager in our history" when we were playing well before Christmas or has he become that because numerous other factors have converged?

 

There was a point this season when I said he looked a good manager to be fair.

 

The EFL situation has been a catalyst for a downturn in our fortunes.

 

Uncertainty being maintained for so long has led to instability. It has effected everyone, confidence has gone, bad decisions made, and heads have dropped. Leading to a re-focus on pre-existing issues at ownership level, that did not detract from our on field activities when things were going well, and the questioning of the ability of everyone concerned at the club, putting everyone on the back foot. A defensive mindset has now set in at all levels. This is not conducive to delivering successful football.

 

The EFL enquiry has killed us at all levels. Should’ve and could’ve been avoided and that’s the main frustration.

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1 hour ago, Belfast Owl 2 said:

Two 5-0 defeats already in 2020.... he is jusr flipping awful. 

Is he fuhck

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Luhkay

Yorath

Irvine

Jones 

Jewell

 

All worse 

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He's got a way to go before he gets into the Eustace/Yorath/Shreeves/Jewell bracket, but he is getting there.

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12 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:

 

He isn't in the Steve Burtenshaw bracket yet. 

But he's very quickly joined the ' Alan Irvine ' Catagory and he's not far behind JOS either. :tango:

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