Dot Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Hang your heads in shame Yes there are things going on behind the scenes. This capitulation though is down to Monk, his team selections are poor his tactics (what are they?) are poor his man management is terrible the off field stuff isn't his doing the on field stuff is totally down to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 The players should hang their heads in shame. Not the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesowl Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 It worries me that people think this is out of Monk’s hand. He had a transfer window in January and didn’t get a defensive midfield. He got more of what we already have. We are stuck with Pessy. He changes the team waaay too much every week. He fails to see which players can actually make a difference in a game, and takes them off or puts them out of position. Tactics are non existent. Subs make things worse not better. Cant deal with Westwood and Hutch. I don’t care how much they cause problems, they are all grown men they just need to sort it out. The players confidence is shot, and this manager is to blame. The manager sets the players up and the manager motivates. He can’t do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robowl4life Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dot said: Hang your heads in shame Yes there are things going on behind the scenes. This capitulation though is down to Monk, his team selections are poor his tactics (what are they?) are poor his man management is terrible the off field stuff isn't his doing the on field stuff is totally down to him I agree partly with what you’re saying but the off field issues often and are obviously filtering down to our on field problems. It’s just one big tangled web. I don’t believe changing manager again is going to change much, we’ll still be in a mess. BUT, I agree that his team selections etc do baffle me. Kind of a catch 22 situation. Edited March 7, 2020 by robowl4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: The players should hang their heads in shame. Not the fans. I said the ones excusing Monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 no excusing here it's his watch and what happens on his watch is down to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReadingOwl Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Responsibility starts at the top. He (the Chairman) appoints, he leads, he instructs, he guides. Monk was his appointment. Without knowing all the politics, personalities and challenges, I couldn’t praise or condemn Monk. That wouldn’t be really fair. I don’t excuse him - but he does have my sympathy. And, so will the next manager. Edited March 7, 2020 by ReadingOwl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 On field is more down to those pathetic players imo. Don’t get me wrong Monk deserves blame but for me the players are more at fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Monk is garbage but the on field thing is not totally down to him The players are being payed thousands a week to play professional football,it's not monks fault players can't pass 5 yards and can't tackle, they deserve 50p between them as it stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, Dot said: Hang your heads in shame Yes there are things going on behind the scenes. This capitulation though is down to Monk, his team selections are poor his tactics (what are they?) are poor his man management is terrible the off field stuff isn't his doing the on field stuff is totally down to him 3rd at Christmas , now 14th . Take a long hard look at the players, they are the ones who have downed tools. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, S36 OWL said: 3rd at Christmas , now 14th . Take a long hard look at the players, they are the ones who have downed tools. Now 9 points off the bottom 3 with the potential point deduction to come. Absolutely pathetic from these players. I honestly can’t wait until the summer when we have the chance to get rid of some of them. If we do go down DC wants running out of this club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Monk is a patsy. Yeah, he's a crap manager, but there is far more going on here than just a poor manager struggling to get performances out of a team. The rot set in long before he got here and it will probably end up with us in League one, whether or not Garry Monk is in charge or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: 3rd at Christmas , now 14th . Take a long hard look at the players, they are the ones who have downed tools. This for me. ^ I still don't feel we'll ever know if Monk was any good or not with this crowd of p!ss takers on the pitch. I only need to see Monks reaction to the camera in the post match presser to know he is taking this personally, its hard to watch. That said, I do believe Monks position is at the untenable stage. Edited March 8, 2020 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Monks struggling but he’s in an awful spot and i don’t think he should be hung out to dry. clubs an absolute car crash from the top. hes just got a bunch of disenfranchised average players with no motivation. i don’t really rate monk - I rate our players even less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) Monk knows they've thrown him under a bus. The whole thing is a shambles. A group of players trying to get the manager sacked; the club not sacking him; so we end up with wacky formations and selections. It is an absolute farce. Edited March 8, 2020 by SiJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: 3rd at Christmas , now 14th . Take a long hard look at the players, they are the ones who have downed tools. And they put in a good display against one of the best teams in the world midweek, they gave their all, on TV..... Now that its back to normal league football they don't give a shiit, those excusing the players... hang your heads in shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SiJ said: Monk knows they've thrown him under a bus. The whole thing is a shambles. A group of players trying to get the manager sacked; the club not sacking him; so we end up with wacky formations and selections. It is an absolute farce. Its pretty much it, and don't forget we've seen this before. Edited March 8, 2020 by Morepork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 For me it would be an absolute disaster if we went down to league one. If it happens imo we will be stuck in that league for a while. It simply can’t happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ka58 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 minute ago, RichieB said: And they put in a good display against one of the best teams in the world midweek, they gave their all, on TV..... Now that its back to normal league football they don't give a shiit, those excusing the players... hang your heads in shame. They were sh ite against city as well by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Just now, Morepork said: Its pretty much it, and don't forget we've seen this with before. It's Jos Mark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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