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8 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said:

I appreciate this thread.  It's a great cheat sheet on those with opines I need to dismiss out of hand.

 

Lol

 

 

You must be his blood brother.

 

7 hours ago, edmontonowl said:

Worse than Potter

 

Much worse, and I still have nightmares about Pansy.

 

42 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

 

Fair enough.

 

Having previously watched both Manchester City and Joey Pelupessy, I can't say I expected a great deal more than we saw.

 

Based on his contributions over the past two seasons you would be very foolish to expect anything more than we saw.

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8 minutes ago, RUMBELOWS91 said:

it was the bit where you said there's more to football than passing I was referring to. Just wondered what qualities you'd spotted in JP's game?


So you don’t see any value in a defensive player marking players, chasing down and harrying, blocking passes by being in the right place at right time etc? 
 

I mean I’m not saying Joey P is great, far from it... but in a midfield of Bannan, Lee and Joey vs Silva, Silva and Rhodri with Mahrez, Aguero and Jesus I front of them to keep them quiet for so long is way above what I expected and I’m certainly not digging out any of our team who worked hard, hustled and played above their standard on the whole. 

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He's a defensive midfielder, his job is to to break up attacks, hold the shape and protect the centre backs... he doesn't do any of this. He just looks absolutely lost at this level and I really don't understand how he keeps getting a shirt. I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt, it's a boring role to play and much of your work goes unnoticed but I've paid close attention to him over the last few games and I've come to conclusion he's absolutely cat meat. His biggest weakness is his positioning, constantly lets his man drift past him, which has led to so many soft goals recently. At one point last night, Iorfa ran past him in the 85th min as cautious Joey failed to recognise that we were 1-0 down with 5 minutes left, opting to continue to sit deep and offer absolutely nothing to the team.

 

A fraud of a  footballer and the worst defensive midfielder I've ever seen play for SWFC - and we once had Darren Potter ffs!

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8 minutes ago, Bassett's Allsorts said:

He's a defensive midfielder, his job is to to break up attacks, hold the shape and protect the centre backs... he doesn't do any of this. He just looks absolutely lost at this level and I really don't understand how he keeps getting a shirt. I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt, it's a boring role to play and much of your work goes unnoticed but I've paid close attention to him over the last few games and I've come to conclusion he's absolutely cat meat. His biggest weakness is his positioning, constantly lets his man drift past him, which has led to so many soft goals recently. At one point last night, Iorfa ran past him in the 85th min as cautious Joey failed to recognise that we were 1-0 down with 5 minutes left, opting to continue to sit deep and offer absolutely nothing to the team.

 

A fraud of a  footballer and the worst defensive midfielder I've ever seen play for SWFC - and we once had Darren Potter ffs!

 

Yeah, and this is the problem.  I checked his stats last night - think it was something like 8 passes and 0 tackles.  I'm pretty sure he recorded 0 tackles in another game recently (Barnsley away maybe?).  For the role he allegedly plays, I cannot understand how you go through a game with 0 tackles.  Bannan had 3 last night ffs, even manged to win 1.  :laugh:

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59 minutes ago, Philb125 said:


So you don’t see any value in a defensive player marking players, chasing down and harrying, blocking passes by being in the right place at right time etc? 
 


There is great value in such work ... it’s just JP doesn’t do much of it all ... watch him, solely him for a few minutes, complete ball watcher who rarely harasses, blocks, tackles and heaven forbid tracks a runner

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11 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said:

One block doesn't absolve 70 mins of absolute anonymity.

 

But he did spend most of the 90mins blocking space in central areas of the pitch, which helped limit City to zero shots on target the first half, and only the one goal in the second. Kept his shape, worked hard, helps stop City playing through the middle. I've seen many a CM at Hillsborough have much worse games than Pelupessy last night (and I'm not really a fan of the lad).

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8 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said:

 

£300k Lower league Dutch player in FAILS TO SEE MUCH OF THE BALL AGAINST SILVA, RODRI AND SILVA SHOCKER!

 

 


No wonder Pep was losing his shiiit on the sideline and was so animated, his team of superstars struggled to break down a ten man team, Nine if I go by the Da Cruz thread for best part of an hour. I remember many on here bemoaning is not breaking down a ten man Millwall, I hope pep locked them in changing room at FT and gave them what for. 

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1 hour ago, Philb125 said:


So you don’t see any value in a defensive player marking players, chasing down and harrying, blocking passes by being in the right place at right time etc? 
 

I mean I’m not saying Joey P is great, far from it... but in a midfield of Bannan, Lee and Joey vs Silva, Silva and Rhodri with Mahrez, Aguero and Jesus I front of them to keep them quiet for so long is way above what I expected and I’m certainly not digging out any of our team who worked hard, hustled and played above their standard on the whole. 

Absolutely  but you're not describing Pelupessey.

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19 minutes ago, oh_weds_we_love_you said:

 

But he did spend most of the 90mins blocking space in central areas of the pitch, which helped limit City to zero shots on target the first half, and only the one goal in the second. Kept his shape, worked hard, helps stop City playing through the middle. I've seen many a CM at Hillsborough have much worse games than Pelupessy last night (and I'm not really a fan of the lad).

 

If blocking space in central areas constitutes to working hard then I'll bring my boots with me on Saturday.

 

Joey Pelupessy can't take credit for limiting the scoreline to 1-0. That was down to us sitting 11 behind the ball (understandably), City's slow tempo and a host of wasted chances.

 

You know Joey's poor when he's not even fit enough to lace Jose Semedo's boots... 

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1 hour ago, latemodelchild said:

I agree. But we didn't attack them with overlapping full backs and centre half's, 2 wingers and 3 up top so it was embarrassing. Or so I'm told by the armchair experts on here. 

 

We never consistently put together any coordinated efforts going forward. Either it was Murphy going on a solo run, or Fessi, but overlapping runs by full backs and wingers drawing defenders with them to pose any real threat and be in any sort of "majority" situation in offense, that was non-existent.

 

Iorfa's magnificent through-ball that da Cruz failed to control deserved a much better fate. And Hunt's clever cross cutting in behind the City defense would have been absolutely blinding if Fletcher had connected with it.

 

There were signs of what we're capable of pulling off, and a solid defensive display, which makes me question what the fizz we're actually doing weeing about mid-table in the Championship this season.

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My son., not a football fan, rang me at  half-time with what i thought was a fair question. 'Who's te most  biased, the Referee or the BBC Commentators?'

Were man City the only team on the field?  I didn't care for the way the team was set up. The idea, IMO, was to keep the score as low as possible. When you consider the way that crap teams like we have been playing recently have been able to score at will, I thought the defence did a splendid job

When you consider that we were playing a side that could afford to keep Raheem Sterling on the bench  for 80 min  a d showed some rather panicy football when we did press towards the end  (too little, too late) I considered our defence overall did a fair job, especially when hey were being reinforced by Bannan,who IMO had a shocker., and was a greater danger to us than the MC forwards.

Must add that, all things considered, I was impressed by Iorfa, but especially young Hunt who has the makings. 

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Difficult game though for many to come out with humongous credit unless you are defending .. if he played CDM he'd probably have more of the ball

 

According to BBC he was deployed in a central attracking role .. He aint gonna get much service in that position given how City were playing

 

Christ they had the fullbacks in winger roles literally on our full backs toes most of the game

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I try not to slate players overly. 

That said I only remember him getting near anyone with the ball all night. 

Cought/player dived about just outside our box and they got a free kick about half hour in. 

 

The biggest critisism from me is we spend nearly 90% of the game defending and without the ball, therefore you'd expect your busiest player to be your Ball winning midfielder Hmmm. Says it all. 

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3 hours ago, N0rtherner said:

 

How could you?

 

The BBC cameras were all on him, then Pep looking disappointed, then him, then Pep looking angry, half-time, then him, then Pep looking exasperated, then him scoring, then Pep nodding.

Cus I was at the match.... 

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3 hours ago, Philb125 said:


So you don’t see any value in a defensive player marking players, chasing down and harrying, blocking passes by being in the right place at right time etc? 
 

I mean I’m not saying Joey P is great, far from it... but in a midfield of Bannan, Lee and Joey vs Silva, Silva and Rhodri with Mahrez, Aguero and Jesus I front of them to keep them quiet for so long is way above what I expected and I’m certainly not digging out any of our team who worked hard, hustled and played above their standard on the whole. 

 

Quote from this morning's Daily Telegraph.

 

"The dominance was summed up by the fact that Wednesday's Joey Pelupessey touched the ball just three times in the first half. And he was playing in central midfield."

 

Irrespective of last nights performance, the worrying thing is that he will play in exactly the same way in any of the remaining games this season while we are struggling against relegation, and if that happens I dread to think how he would perform against lower league cloggers.

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