@owlstalk Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, toppOwl said: Its gone on bad decisions/purchases, the OP states that he is not excusing how its been spent. So the players have had the money then And the agents? And maybe also advisors? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Striggy said: Stop trying to rally fans to your own crusade. I am a fan and will continue to go every week and support the team. Rip off prices? yeah sure they are high, but this was explained by DC from the start,that to try to get the most out of P&S limits the fans had to take some pain to contribute towards allowable income. How it's been spent is a different topic, but it has not gone into the pockets of greedy shareholders so not a rip off, just painful. Sure DC is getting things wrong, but don't need anyone telling me not to go. Sheffield United managed to get promoted without the need of rip off prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So the players have had the money then And the agents? And maybe also advisors? I don't think thats the issue, a poster was accusing the chairman of ripping off the fans, if the money hasn't gone into his own pocket but was actually spent in what he saw as improvements than fans are not being ripped off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, matthefish2002 said: Sheffield United managed to get promoted without the need of rip off prices. They have one of the best English managers that has emerged for years, the running of the club behind the scenes was shambolic, they got lucky. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So the players have had the money then And the agents? And maybe also advisors? Yes. That’s the gamble we, amongst others, continually take to reach “the promised land.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, toppOwl said: I don't think thats the issue, a poster was accusing the chairman of ripping off the fans, if the money hasn't gone into his own pocket but was actually spent in what he saw as improvements than fans are not being ripped off. That logic makes no sense whatsoever If you went into a curry house and paid £35 for a curry worth £8.95, but all the profits went into the curry house owner making umbrellas then that doesn’t mean you’re not getting ripped off Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 12 minutes ago, pat blondeau said: Is there any chance the EFL could disqualify Chansiri under the Owners and Directors test as they did with Cellino at Leeds? Would that be a good outcome for us now? He has already transfered his shares to his wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: So where has all the money gone then? Whos benefitted from these high prices? Players and parasite agents I'd guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: That logic makes no sense whatsoever If you went into a curry house and paid £35 for a curry worth £8.95, but all the profits went into the curry house owner making umbrellas then that doesn’t mean you’re not getting ripped off Totally different scenario, he's not using the money to make the curry house better. If the profit was used to buy the best ingredients and hire the best chefs again it wouldn't be a rip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Speculation by any other name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Just now, toppOwl said: Totally different scenario, he's not using the money to make the curry house better. If the profit was used to buy the best ingredients and hire the best chefs again it wouldn't be a rip off. But the money is going to the staff (players) and the staffs employment agency (agents/advisors) Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striggy Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Sheffield United managed to get promoted without the need of rip off prices. Horses for courses, Blunts the exception rather than the rule. Do I like paying high prices, of course not, do I understand what DC was trying to do, yes. Did it work, no! Still would only call it a rip off if someone was profiteering from it, do not believe anyone is. "nobody told me there would be days like these!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, toppOwl said: They have one of the best English managers that has emerged for years, the running of the club behind the scenes was shambolic, they got lucky. Other clubs apart from Sheffield United have been promoted without the need for eye watering ticket prices like Wednesday including some who didn't have parachute payments. I dont actually blame Chansiri for not getting promoted, can be very fine margins between success and failure in the play offs for example. But for the high ticket prices I think he deserves less sympathy for running the club so poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Striggy said: Horses for courses, Blunts the exception rather than the rule. What about all the other clubs that have also managed it with prices lower than ours? You know... Literally every single other club to have got promoted from this division.. Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ash76 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 F8ck me, everyone has always heard summat and then you can rely on the majority of our fanbase to lap it up. I swear some even enjoy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 2 hours ago, DeeJayOne said: Something I heard re: Points Deduction. Could be true, might be bull. The EFL have been pushing to give us maximum points deduction (21 points) knowing that we'll challenge it and get it reduced to ~12 points. They want to make an example of us for challenging them. It doesn't work like that. I'm sure the EFL would want to give us 21 points but they don't get to decide, the INDEPENDENT panel do. The panel is independent of the EFL and rarely (or never) give penalties as severe as the EFL want. In our case they might make an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogbad Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Anybody any idea if our commercial income has increased under DC. I understand why DC charges the fans so much, I don't with agree it, but it would be even more diffucult to accept if our already poor commercial income hadn't improved under DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KivoOwl Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, toppOwl said: Totally different scenario, he's not using the money to make the curry house better. If the profit was used to buy the best ingredients and hire the best chefs again it wouldn't be a rip off. If I bought a curry for £35 and was told it cost £8 to assemble the ingredients, I'd expect the chef to welcome me personally to the seat and produce the most amazing tikka masala I've ever had. If he served up a flat onion bhaji, mouldy rice and gave me a wobbly chair I'd say I'd been ripped off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, matthefish2002 said: Sheffield United managed to get promoted without the need of rip off prices. Has Casbah just negged you, I wouldn't have believed it had I not seen it with my own eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalagaOwl Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 15 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: But the money is going to the staff (players) and the staffs employment agency (agents/advisors) Surely in this scenario the players are not the staff but the actual curry. Balti Bannon Keema Lee Etc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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