Lord Snooty Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 17 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: True that. That big lass in the back of the motor home the other night was tough as nails! When you say big..? When she passed her handbag from one hand to the other did she have to throw it? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Steelman said: Chansiri is a fuckingidiot Paxo is a leach. Get both thecunts out of this club. Come ,Steelman step down from the fence. . Edited March 1, 2020 by Lord Snooty 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Junk Smuggler said: It seems anyone with a decent ounce of football knowledge didn't last too long in the process. Suggests to me that if you had a strong opinion then it didn't fit with the DC mould and you weren't there long. To me that's not bad advice that's just stubborn and ignorant. Don’t think it’s anything to do with strong opinions. Doyen/Paxo were setting up/ running the show for DC and will have said you don’t need these other people we can do that. More dosh and control for them. I spent my working life dealing with consultants trying to do the same. It’s a common approach which if you let continue always ends in tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, oldishowl said: Don’t think it’s anything to do with strong opinions. Doyen/Paxo were setting up/ running the show for DC and will have said you don’t need these other people we can do that. More dosh and control for them. I spent my working life dealing with consultants trying to do the same. It’s a common approach which if you let continue always ends in tears. I didn't realise that Doyen/Paxo were in place at the start when Roeder and Gray were here. Surely the past 3 years suggest that the Doyen/Paxo approach hasn't worked? He got rid of the other lot in a heartbeat so no reason to do the same with them. That's the stubborn and ignorance in the guy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, TINGLE75 said: https://www.footballparadise.com/dan-petrescu/ Interesting read odd, it's unlike DC to take an age when making a decision... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, stanningtonowl said: Blonde hair and bigger knockers and about right! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: Blonde hair and bigger knockers and about right! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, DJMortimer said: To be fair, given the situation we were in by then, that deal made perfect sens Point is, who decided to sell him. Knowing who is agent is, seems to me we would have been better off getting rid if several others first, even if we had to give em away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 24 minutes ago, A12owl said: There are CEO's in various industries who get millions of ££ in bonuses when the companies are losing money. Banking is one example. Didn't a certain owner of BHS pay himself millions while his employees lost their jobs and pensions? True - but at least they are direct employees. The only consultants I can think of who make tons of cash at points of business failure are administrators and lawyers... oh, and HS2 consultants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob1601 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Improving the ground and training ground \ academy don’t count towards FFP but sponsorship of them does help towards it. We have done little in those areas in 5 years. Why is everything tied up in players for an owner who we are told wants to spend money but cannot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Looking back at it, it was a mistake getting rid of Roeder, Pearson and Senior. We did some good business summer 2015, Bannan, Wallace, Hunt, Pudil, Foriesteri, Joao, Hooper, Lopez was decent as was Sasso. Since then recruitment has gone down hill badly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Mr Farrell said: What if a proportion of the money DC has wasted was Doyens, and not his ? I think it was/is. Doyen do loan money for players, in return they get a percentage of future transfer fees. Or if not sold the loan is called in plus interest. Usually within 3 years. Now, if at the onset doyen put say a £30m? transfer kitty in place.. Doyen cannot lose, the loan is still payable even if transfers are unsuccessful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, sherlyegg said: Point is, who decided to sell him. Knowing who is agent is, seems to me we would have been better off getting rid if several others first, even if we had to give em away. A number of factors have to come together for a transfer to be completed. You can't just give a player away for nothing without his consent due to the potential contractual obligations, unless you are paying the outstanding amount in full, which we are hardly in a position to do. And given the financial hole we were in at that time (and still are), which of our players would have given us that kind of monetary return? Also, what has Joao done since he left to indicate it was a bad move for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: A number of factors have to come together for a transfer to be completed. You can't just give a player away for nothing without his consent due to the potential contractual obligations, unless you are paying the outstanding amount in full, which we are hardly in a position to do. And given the financial hole we were in at that time (and still are), which of our players would have given us that kind of monetary return? Also, what has Joao done since he left to indicate it was a bad move for us? I am not saying it was right or wrong. I said who decided to sell him. I'm of the opinion we got very little roi, given who his agents were before he came and when he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: Also, what has Joao done since he left to indicate it was a bad move for us? He’d be our second top scorer and may be even better as he might not have got injured. Slow start but scored 4 in his last 7 games. But we needed to raise money and who else could we sell for hard cash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGLE75 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Theres absolutely no communication from the club regarding the current issues. It's no wonder there's so much negative chat on the forum. Everyone is speculating because of the lack of communication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddy Repperton Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 hours ago, TINGLE75 said: https://www.footballparadise.com/dan-petrescu/ Interesting read Thanks for putting this back on. Saw this a while back. Everyone who follows SWFC should read this. Get Paixo & Chansiri out of our club ASAP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, TINGLE75 said: Theres absolutely no communication from the club regarding the current issues. It's no wonder there's so much negative chat on the forum. Everyone is speculating because of the lack of communication Not this again. A football club simply cannot be that kind of open house and it's plain daft to suggest otherwise. What possible good would be served by confirming publicly something like (if it happened) a punch up between the manager and a player or this guy has been sent to the reserves because he can't be arsed? And as for that preventing speculation... REALLY !? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 hours ago, DJMortimer said: It's a long time ago now, but I'm reasonably sure that he was very much part of the takeover, rather than just being in an advisory capacity. That makes a lot of sense TBF. Very worrying times ahead if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I don't get the MM/AP link, didn't AP at first work for Doyen and was then directly employed by DC? Does anyone know who actually identifies players for recruitment, its seem to be a mystery wrapped up in an enigma...........in a bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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