Nut Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I'm looking forward to sering him play but hope he has a nightmare and we win, obviously. I'm glad he's past his best as he hopefully won't hurt us too much but will be dangerous from free kicks round the box which we seem pretty good at giving away. If he's still got the same workrate and commitment he'll be a real handful. Might have to get hutch back to mark him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ever the pessimist said: Klinssman disappointed me. He scored. I was there to watch Wednesday. You know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhubarb n Custard Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 fornicate me, 5 pages? Yes or no would have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat blondeau Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, Dan™ said: I don't get these posts to be honest, you were both replying to someone attacking his character. Football achievements shouldn't have even the slightest thing to do with what you think of him as a person. If he's a d!ck, he's a d!ck. (I don't actually know if he is a d!ick or not and have no opinion either way. He doesn't play for us so I don't care.) What’s he attacking his character for? Does he know him? I don’t care that much either, just thought it was a bit strange to say this... ‘he's a total bell, no class, everything that's wrong with football and an absolute weapon’ about a footballer who’s probably achieved more than any English footballer since 1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) Are some people really actually genuinely going to boo Wayne Rooney? What a strange world Edited February 29, 2020 by Sonny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Sonny said: Are some people really actually genuinely going to boo Wayne Rooney? What a strange world Yes, and ironically some of them will probably only be bothering going to the game to see him. Booing an opponent because he's a top player - bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 hours ago, dewsburyowl58 said: Christ he was only asking , I was thinking the same the other day , get over yourself , he will most likely be head and shoulders above any other player if he plays regardless of his private life and personality Hmmm, my left b*llock has more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 minute ago, daleblue said: Hmmm, my left b*llock has more. What? Hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, alanharper said: Yes, and ironically some of them will probably only be bothering going to the game to see him. Booing an opponent because he's a top player - bizarre. Particularly when he's never done anything against us to hate him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 hours ago, pat blondeau said: England’s record goal scorer Manchester United’s record goal scorer Most premier league goals for one club Second highest premier league goal scorer PFA player of the year Football writers’ player of the year 5 x premier league winner Champions league winner 3 x league cup winner FA cup winner Europa league winner World club championship winner I still hope he has a stinker tomorrow but he’s done a bit in the game That's just dandy, what abart the World Cup eh. he's just a born a loser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daleblue Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, OwlofOliveGrove said: This is the saltiest thread I've read on here in a while. ...and this is OT, it's like the Dead Sea at the best of times. Not half as salty as your missus. Soz, couldn't help myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 This is what kills me about Wednesday fans.... only a few seasons ago the Kop gave a standing ovation to Tony McMahon simply because he previously had a loan spell where he played a massive 15 games for us. It was made more embarrassing by the fact that a section of supporters were booing some of our own players. Yet a real legend in the game is visiting Hillsborough and there is so much hatred probably based on what people have read in the red tops. Mental Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, daleblue said: Hmmm, my left b*llock has more. Regardless!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, daleblue said: Not half as salty as your missus. Soz, couldn't help myself. Neither could the rest of us in the queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Animis said: He was very good in those 3/4 games - and delivered on other occasions for England and Man U for years after. Pretty much stayed fit; particularly for someone who came into the game at a very early age. He was big for a 17/18 year old and held is own. We now seem to have to wait until someone's' 23 before they're considered for first team action. Not sure how effective he's been at Derby, but commercially he have brought in a few bob. 13 games, 4 goals, 2 assists. Pretty decent return considering he's only just getting back up to speed with the English game. He scored a proper filthy Paneka penalty last week too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snaykz Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, ChinaOwl said: Nowt to do with Rooney really but that is a misleading stat. Of course it is technically correct in terms of numbers but modern international strikers will score more goals almost by default because of the political changes in the world. The USSR and Yugoslavia that were strong collectively in footballing terms have been broken up creating cannon fodder satellite nations allowing the more recent England players to fill their boots. A luxury that their predecessors didn't have the advantage of skewing the scoring records. Bobby Charlton scored England hattricks against USA (won 8-1), Luxemburg (won 9-0), Mexico (won 8-0), Switzerland (won 8-1), etc. Jimmy Greaves scored England hattricks against Luxemburg (won 8-0), Scotland (won 9-3), Northern Ireland (won 8-3), Norway (won 6-1), etc. If anything, there are fewer one-sided matches in the modern era, not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Sonny said: Didn’t know people were carrying such anger around towards Wayne Rooney. Think I’d find it quite tiring. Amazing isn’t it, since when has Rooney been so hated? Must have missed the memo people writing full essays on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 State of this thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Steve Down South said: So go on then, how many were / are? If those two are the measure of a great player then only a handful could ever be regarded as such. An outstanding player who came up a little short when compared with the very best, but still a class act on the pitch. You totally miss the point it wasn’t me that put him in that bracket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, snaykz said: Bobby Charlton scored England hattricks against USA (won 8-1), Luxemburg (won 9-0), Mexico (won 8-0), Switzerland (won 8-1), etc. Jimmy Greaves scored England hattricks against Luxemburg (won 8-0), Scotland (won 9-3), Northern Ireland (won 8-3), Norway (won 6-1), etc. If anything, there are fewer one-sided matches in the modern era, not more. I remember in my earlier days watching football that qualifying groups for the World Cup and European Nations Cup used to be comprised of four teams. Each group usually consisted of two strong nations like Italy and England for the 1978 WC and two weaker nations. Only one team qualified. These days because of the break up of the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia etc., there are so many small nations or republics in the UEFA Region such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Kosovo, Albania, Montenegro, Serbia, Moldova etc. Most of them consist of players that would struggle to cut it in the lower English leagues let alone amongst the elite of European football. Add those nations to the already existing cannon fodder such as the Faroe Islands, San Marino, Luxembourg etc., and it is easy to see why strikers at the top level of European football are racking up huge international hauls. Because of that, qualification groups now consist of six nations. The best nations are seeded and put in separate groups so not playing each other in the qualifying rounds or the early rounds of the tournament proper. From each group, two teams qualify and possibly a third through eliminators. That also means more games for players within the tournament proper and the early rounds again containing a lot of weak opposition. The upshot is that in the modern game, players that are regular internationals are virtually guaranteed ten qualifier stage matches every two years against generally very weak opposition then more goal fests in the early rounds of the tournament proper. Great isn't it that all league matches are cancelled due to back to back internationals against Montenegro and Kosovo (or summat similar)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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