McRightSide Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) Always feel a bit nervous when I see both these names appear together in the starting XI, it just seems like we never really win much when they start games together. Wondered whether it was just personal bias or fact, so I looked it up. Essentially from 1st January 2019 - 22nd February 2020 we have won 2 league games when both of these guys start. 2018 was slightly better, there was a spell in early 2018/19 where we had 3 wins on the bounce with them both in the side. But aside from that, it’s pretty grim reading. Edited February 22, 2020 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Pelupessey is league 1, Dawson will get better. It doesn’t help playing in front of a defence who have been horrid last few months. I’m definitely willing to give him time yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, FreshOwl said: Pelupessey is league 1, Dawson will get better. It doesn’t help playing in front of a defence who have been horrid last few months. I’m definitely willing to give him time yet League 1 is generous IMO Dont think he’s cut out for English pro football personally. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Pelupessy isn't good enough, Dawson can't kick and is terrible on crosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, TINKERBELL said: Dawson must have his confidence shot to bits by that defense he's got. He will get better with better players around him Pelupessy is just totally crap and needs to go back to Holland Börner, Palmer, Iorfa, Fox, Odubajo and Lees are the players we’ve had all season and are all under contract beyond this season too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, full fathom five said: Pelupessy isn't good enough, Dawson can't kick and is terrible on crosses. He’s got a lot better on crosses IMO Worried about shots to goals ratio though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeadonowl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Dawson had no chance with any goal today 1st goal Murphy for some reason decides to swing his leg at a ball and shanks it 2nd goal between the defence and Pelupessy they manage to be outmuscled by the brum forwards 3rd goal Lees looses header and rest of defence don’t help leaving hogan a free shot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Dawson is okay. Pessy is shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelman Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Pissypussy is one of the worst CM players I've ever seen at Hillsborough. We moved Jose Semedo on because he was deemed not to be championship quality. Well this excuse for a footballer isn't fit to lick theshit off his shoes. I don't blame him though. I blame Monk for picking him. I'd rather give Iorfa or Windass a go in CM. I genuinely don't understand how he gets a shirt. He should never play for Wednesday again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, yeadonowl said: Dawson had no chance with any goal today 1st goal Murphy for some reason decides to swing his leg at a ball and shanks it 2nd goal between the defence and Pelupessy they manage to be outmuscled by the brum forwards 3rd goal Lees looses header and rest of defence don’t help leaving hogan a free shot Think your missing the point of this thread mate. You're meant to say Westwood would have saved all threr and that wi Hutch an all we'd have probably won three nowt. 3 Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Steelman said: Pissypussy is one of the worst CM players I've ever seen at Hillsborough. We moved Jose Semedo on because he was deemed not to be championship quality. Well this excuse for a footballer isn't fit to lick theshit off his shoes. I don't blame him though. I blame Monk for picking him. I'd rather give Iorfa or Windass a go in CM. I genuinely don't understand how he gets a shirt. He should never play for Wednesday again. Jose Semedo is the answer lets get him back, What’s Carlton Palmer or Gary Shelton doing these days.... Worth a contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 42 minutes ago, Steelman said: Pissypussy is one of the worst CM players I've ever seen at Hillsborough. We moved Jose Semedo on because he was deemed not to be championship quality. Well this excuse for a footballer isn't fit to lick theshit off his shoes. I don't blame him though. I blame Monk for picking him. I'd rather give Iorfa or Windass a go in CM. I genuinely don't understand how he gets a shirt. He should never play for Wednesday again. Some people will say this is harsh but it really does stretch this far with him. He’s that poor that he shouldn’t play again, and Monk is on another planet for continuing to pick him. I’d rather play an out of position player there ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, yeadonowl said: Dawson had no chance with any goal today 1st goal Murphy for some reason decides to swing his leg at a ball and shanks it 2nd goal between the defence and Pelupessy they manage to be outmuscled by the brum forwards 3rd goal Lees looses header and rest of defence don’t help leaving hogan a free shot I never said he was at fault for anything today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millhouses Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Any Manager that selects Pelupessy should be sacked on the spot, National league at best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindygrOWLer Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: Always feel a bit nervous when I see both these names appear together in the starting XI, it just seems like we never really win much when they start games together. Wondered whether it was just personal bias or fact, so I looked it up. Essentially from 1st January 2019 - 22nd February 2020 we have won 2 league games when both of these guys start. 2018 was slightly better, there was a spell in early 2018/19 where we had 3 wins on the bounce with them both in the side. But aside from that, it’s pretty grim reading. U sure about those stats? I'm aware that 88.78% of stats are made up on the spot, but they are shocking? Although how many games has joey actually started in that time frame? Hutch gets a lot of stick on here about playing too deep positionally but defensively we are much better with him than without. Monk has certainly made a rod for his own back by excluding him and hasn't he subbed Joey at half time the last 2 games? Kind of an admission that he was wrong to start him...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millhouses Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, FreshOwl said: Pelupessey is league 1, Dawson will get better. It doesn’t help playing in front of a defence who have been horrid last few months. I’m definitely willing to give him time yet League 1!! he’s pub league at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, WindygrOWLer said: U sure about those stats? I'm aware that 88.78% of stats are made up on the spot, but they are shocking? Although how many games has joey actually started in that time frame? Hutch gets a lot of stick on here about playing too deep positionally but defensively we are much better with him than without. Monk has certainly made a rod for his own back by excluding him and hasn't he subbed Joey at half time the last 2 games? Kind of an admission that he was wrong to start him...... Yep. I looked it up. Shocking right? From memory he’s started about 35-40 games. Obviously not all with Dawson, but shows my pessimism when I see both names starting is not way off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splan80 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Subbed twice at half time in as many matches, yet still deemed suitable to start..... Mmm..... Comes back to same issue we had with Jos. Playing players who train all the time is all well and good, but if they are not playing at their (substandard) best, they are passengers. The team is it playing well enough or with enough character to carry them. Frustrating how some players are given performance or injury passes, when others aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonOwl313 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, splan80 said: Subbed twice at half time in as many matches, yet still deemed suitable to start..... Mmm..... Comes back to same issue we had with Jos. Playing players who train all the time is all well and good, but if they are not playing at their (substandard) best, they are passengers. The team is it playing well enough or with enough character to carry them. Frustrating how some players are given performance or injury passes, when others aren't. It’s a joke because you have to account for a players ability as well.. by Monk’s logic, if we had Kevin De Bruyne and Mo Salah but they were only able to train once a week to manage injuries, he’d bin them off and go with Pelupessy and Nuhui instead. It’s all about doing the business on a Saturday afternoon and the players he picks don’t do it while the ones sat at home generally do when selected. Irritating to say the least especially when paying a fortune for tickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Steelman said: Pissypussy is one of the worst CM players I've ever seen at Hillsborough. We moved Jose Semedo on because he was deemed not to be championship quality. Well this excuse for a footballer isn't fit to lick theshit off his shoes. I don't blame him though. I blame Monk for picking him. I'd rather give Iorfa or Windass a go in CM. I genuinely don't understand how he gets a shirt. He should never play for Wednesday again. I've said pretty much from the start that he isn't good enough but as you say that isn't his fault, he is what he is and at least he always gives his all, which can't be said of them all. He should not be in the squad and Monk subbing him at half-time two games in a row says a lot about his selection but is there really any need to resort to childish name calling given you don't think it is his fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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