Frank_Lucas Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) All things said and done will you now please stay? (I'm just another typical idiot Owlstalk poster) Edited February 22, 2020 by 1867_OWL 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Monks tactics ain't what we've been seeing recently I think he's just been trying to work with what he has, at half time today I think he threw that plan out the window though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Lucas Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Mixed emotions right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Yeah tactics are spot on, was always the tactical plan to concede three goals! 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, 1867_OWL said: Mixed emotions right now! couldn’t wait ten minutes before the post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 shots. 3 goals conceded. A mess at the back and the best keeper - who is proven to be able to bring shape and structure to a chaotic defence - sat at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddyowl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Tactics my ar5e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, 1867_OWL said: All things said and done will you now please stay? (I'm just another typical idiot Owlstalk poster) The fact that he changed the tactics at half-time suggested not. Also can't formulate any tactics on how to hold onto a results in the closing stages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 We caused plenty of problems. Problem was we didn’t kill the game off. Defence has been horrendous no matter who plays out of Lees, Borner and Iorfa. Centre back and centre midfield are huge problem areas. We lack a strong spine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Lucas Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Philb125 said: couldn’t wait ten minutes before the post? You missed my earlier post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxtongent Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Maybe it's not the tatics that are wrong, but the way they are carried out. I'm certainly no lover of the tactic of pulling everyone back into the box, because , as has been said, there is no one up field to receive a clearance, and it immediately comes back into the box. This was my main complaint in Brian Laws' era. It just does not make sense. If they want to hoof the ball out of the penalty area, then put it into the stands, preferably the back.; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, 0114 said: We caused plenty of problems. Problem was we didn’t kill the game off. Defence has been horrendous no matter who plays out of Lees, Borner and Iorfa. Centre back and centre midfield are huge problem areas. We lack a strong spine. Borner and Iorfa were arguably two of our best players this season up until January so I think you’re being harsh there. Though midfield has been a problem and will continue to be until we can move players on. I’m still 50/50 on whether or not we should try to move Bannan on? I expect if Fletcher plays more regularly between now and the end of the season, Bannan will be more productive. Edited February 23, 2020 by Great Big Galaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 39 minutes ago, Great Big Galaa said: Borner and Iorfa were arguably two of our best players this season up until January so I think you’re being harsh there. Though midfield has been a problem and will continue to be until we can move players on. I’m still 50/50 on whether or not we should try to move Bannan on? I expect if Fletcher plays more regularly between now and the end of the season, Bannan will be more productive. This is a complete myth about Iorfa and Borner before January. Last 4 wins before January all had Iorfa and Lees as the CB pairing. Bristol 1-0 Forest 4-0 Brentford 2-1 Charlton 3-1 Clean sheets before January, you have to go back to October 22nd for one that include Borner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 20 hours ago, McRightSide said: 4 shots. 3 goals conceded. A mess at the back and the best keeper - who is proven to be able to bring shape and structure to a chaotic defence - sat at home. This is not a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 20 hours ago, hirstyboywonder said: The fact that he changed the tactics at half-time suggested not. Also can't formulate any tactics on how to hold onto a results in the closing stages. Yes, getting defenders who can defend, head the ball and not poo themselves when they get the ball to feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 I don’t think there was anything wrong with our tactics. Fox and Fletcher were obviously not up to playing 90 mins and with a lot of games to come no problem with them only getting 45 mins. Also pleased he went without the loan players. Perhaps Wickham could have started but while Windass and Da Cruz are different to what we have the directness and pace of Murphy and Harris definitely caused them a lot of problems. The defence struggled in a way but it was a severe test under a long ball, long throw aerial bombardment. Made our tactics under Monk like total football. Jutkiwiez is probably the best striker in the league in the air, a real handful. We played more football than we have for a while and should have won but we all knew what was coming after Murphy missed the one on one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, OwlBiSeeinThi said: This is not a disaster. Love to know how many long throws they hurled into our box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlBiSeeinThi Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, oldishowl said: Love to know how many long throws they hurled into our box. It's Arial battles we are losing. That final goal yesterday was due to weak defending by Lees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshy Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, oldishowl said: Love to know how many long throws they hurled into our box. Too many, although you probably can't do an awful lot against that. You could have informed the side before hand so everyone was well aware of who they were picking up, leaving no-one free. You could in the brief tell the side not to give away silly throw in's. Problem is we don't know what was said pre match. It did seem to cause a lot of panic though at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 According to some on here the tactics worked because we scored 3 and got a point at Birmingham. FF is obviously a lone striker cos he got and assist and took the penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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