Guest Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mister Soul said: He is a significant reason for our poor form.. been saying it for weeks. Defence looks nervy when he plays .. ..consequently errors appear.. midfield has to drop deeper to help .. says it all He didn't play last weekend, it's not just him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Soul Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, hirstyboywonder said: He didn't play last weekend, it's not just him. True! But look at the highlights from when he came on against Wigan and then when started against QPR .. all you need to see .. lack of confidence in your teammate is like a virus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0114 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Just now, Mister Soul said: True! But look at the highlights from when he came on against Wigan and then when started against QPR .. all you need to see .. lack of confidence in your teammate is like a virus Hard to identify individuals when the entire defence are consistently making mistakes. Can’t be just blaming one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, keepitsteel89 said: Sell for a profit he says I’d pay someone to take him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkastav Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Never been the strongest, remember Jake buxton bullying him for derby from corners years back, and he was reyt dogmeat sponge foot clustercoont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Needs to be one of the first out the door this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Mentally and physically weak, the same as the majority of this squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffwed1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Our captain who needed a leader like Loovens at the side of him or he was generally poor. I despair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxing_day Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Should have been replaced a while ago. Can’t see anyone taking him now with the money he’s on though, so assume he’ll be here next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swfc1983 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Loovens made Lees the player he was a few years back. Since he’s gone Lees has got progressively worse and is so far away from captain material it’s embarrassing. In this current team the defence gets badly exposed and it’s shows the men from the boys I’m afraid. Needs to be part of the summer cull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markg Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Dont rate any if our centre backs to be honest. Iorfa best of a bad bunch but he is also is liable to big errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Mister Soul said: He is a significant reason for our poor form.. been saying it for weeks. Defence looks nervy when he plays .. ..consequently errors appear.. midfield has to drop deeper to help .. says it all They also look very nervous when he doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteOwl91 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) A number of fans have called for Hutchinson to be captain previously because he shouts and screams a lot and have a go at lees because he doesn’t. Hutchinson has now been bombed out twice by two managers. But obviously a captain is much more than that. None of us know his influence around the dressing room or how he conducts himself etc. To be honest I remember people suggesting Hutchinson when we had Loovens! Edited February 22, 2020 by WhiteOwl91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 (edited) I think it’s very unfair to say Tom Lees is mentally weak. I would say the group as a collective are mentally weak as a consequence of 2 failed playoff campaigns. He’s been a good player for us as Tom Lees and was great alongside Loovens. I would also say that recently he’s been shocking but so have Borner and Iorfa. Edited February 22, 2020 by Bouncing Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanningtonowl Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, WhiteOwl91 said: A number of fans have called for Hutchinson to be captain previously because he shouts and screams a lot and have a go at lees because he doesn’t. Hutchinson has now been bombed out twice by two managers. But obviously a captain is much more than that. None of us know his influence around the dressing room or how he conducts himself etc. To be honest I remember people suggesting Hutchinson when we had Loovens! But Hutchinson tackles and shows desire and a will to win and leadership. Monk don’t want any of that, or shouting at him in the dressing room, or pointing out where it’s going wrong, or there’s no tactics. Boo Hutch because he gets yellow cards and reds and injured. Booooooo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Billy Blunt runs the pigs according to Norwood. Wonder if anyone does the same at Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzuki_San Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 He actually wasn't that bad today. The biggest question for me though, is why he stayed on the pitch and Iorfa went off. I would bet my house on Iorfa winning the header that Lees weakly attempted to defend for their equaliser. Iorfa is quicker, stronger and faster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Let go on a free. Wages far in excess of ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_1 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 4 hours ago, RUMBELOWS91 said: Never been captain material. Constantly looks defeated. He always looks defeated beause he always gets defeated. Very weak. Never in a million years should he be losing that header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Harsh imo. When Lees played alongside Loovens, racking up all those appearances and clean sheets. He didn't look out of place then. I think the the constant chopping and changing in front of him and alongside him isn't helping whatsoever, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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