Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Grandad said: You. Boring. Barstewards STOP DERAILING THE THREAD WITH THIS NONSENSE Seriously, if just one of you stops the other one will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: You. Boring. Barstewards STOP DERAILING THE THREAD WITH THIS NONSENSE Shaddup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyto Alba Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, modboy said: So has he forfeited the remainder of his contract then if he's shaked hands and walked away Funny he doesn't mention this in his statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PriceAPP Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, WalthamOwl said: Just sums up DC that. Westwood been told he’s not part of our plans, a club come in for him, surely any money would be better than no money, yet DC refuses. And some people wonder why we are in such a mess. And another rumour starts.... him tweeting this has just started more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopparberg Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 45 minutes ago, Grandad said: I bet Westwood is ****** gutted he won't have to play for his £30k a week. He’s involved in another club isn’t he? Cheadle Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) Who starts these rumours and more importantly why do we feed them? Anybody starting a rumour, call them out. Ask for evidence. If they can’t, tell them to do one with their rumour. Saying that, these are forums for discussion, but lies are lies and it shouldn’t happen. Edited February 17, 2020 by Nigel Farage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Philb125 said: Has Christmas off every year in a country where it’s busiest time of year, or play in a league where there’s no games over Christmas. Played over the Christmas period last season, 2016/17 and 2014/15 but I suppose if you write EVERY year it almost becomes believable...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Nigel Farage said: Who starts these rumours and more importantly why do we feed them. Anybody starting a rumour, call them out. Ask for evidence. If they can’t, tell to do one with their rumour. Saying that, these are forums for discussion, but lies are lies and it shouldn’t happen. Thats the most ironic post for someone called Nigel Farage ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M Royds Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, Grandad said: Thats the most ironic post for someone called Nigel Farage ever Norway are happy. Fish with blue passports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Everything about the club at the minute just smells like an eggy fart. Needs some leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: pure semantics. what you are doing is trying to make it sound vague. Anyone with any common sense can see that means monks decision was to not play him and play dawson, it coincides with the fact westwood isNot playing. Answer a question for once rather than sending it around in circles. considering he has said he accepts monks decision ( if you think he’s vague and you think it’s something else explain your interpretation) and they haven’t had a falling out over that ( which is clearly to not have him in the squad because he isn’t ( but again if you do t think that explains. Why) what do you think westwood is trying to say or do? Absolutely nobody on Planet Earth is disputing that it was Monk’s decision not to play Westwood and play Dawson. That was the case before this statement and remains the case afterwards. I have an opinion on where the truth is likely to be but I would never portray it as fact. Because we don’t know enough about it. My opinion is that Westwood has been getting hammer all over social media. He has therefore instructed a professional HR person to draft a statement. Being a professional, that person is skilful at what they do and without really saying anything of any substance has used sound bites that 90% of people read in a positive manner. “179 matches” “twice player of the year” “given everything for each other out on that pitch!” “Never forget and will cherish forever” “important that fans stick together and support the team”. Anybody that regularly issues press or marketing releases knows that these NEVER sound negative because they are professionally written to have the opposite effect. These same people will realise that the nuance is in what the statement doesn’t say and in the way things have been phrased. There is absolutely nothing in that statement that couldn’t have been written if Monk had told him he wasn’t playing for being a bad influence in the changing rooms or for not playing with a slight niggle etc. My opinion, is that based on Westwood’s situation, if he wasn’t being picked for purely football reasons, why would he not say that? He doesn’t say that which leads me to believe that he isn’t being picked for another reason. He also doesn’t say things like I continue to give my all in training, I continue to support Dawson and Wildsmith, I continue to be available for selection etc. Which when the statement is clearly made for PR reasons and is clearly made to defend himself - seems strange.... That is my opinion (or best guess) but I clearly hold few of the facts. Edited February 17, 2020 by HirstWhoScoredIt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, wilyfox said: I don't buy that statement one bit. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Mr Farrell said: Everything about the club at the minute just smells like an eggy fart. Needs some leadership. But Monk said, you ain't playing and you ain't playing. I'm the gaffer and that's the end of it. Boo, we need a different leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, tuzy100 said: As good as a keeper Westwood is, two out of the last three managers didn’t pick him, he never got picked for Ireland, and even in January when clubs were looking at goal keepers they never wanted Westwood, Monks rubbish and he needs to go but so do a lot of the players. That's all well and good until you realise that the 2 who didn't pick him are impostors like Jos and Monk and the 1 who did is a proper manager - Steve Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Sonny said: Unless you’re highlighting that Monk makes the decisions on who plays... like that’s some kind of news. he does, he made a decision to play a forward at LWB last week and took him off at half-time because he wasn't doing the job all that well! Monk's decisions are a cause for concern based on what we have witnessed since Boxing Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Just now, sherlyegg said: But Monk said, you ain't playing and you ain't playing. I'm the gaffer and that's the end of it. Boo, we need a different leader. Westwood conveniently doesn't mention the reason why Monk has had enough of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said: Absolutely nobody on Planet Earth is disputing that it was Monk’s decision not to play Westwood and play Dawson. That was the case before this statement and remains the case afterwards. I have an opinion on where the truth is likely to be but I would never portray it as fact. Because we don’t know enough about it. My opinion is that Westwood has been getting hammer all over social media. He has therefore instructed a professional HR person to draft a statement. Being a professional, that person is skilful at what they do and without really saying anything of any substance has used sound bites that 90% of people read in a positive manner. “179 matches” “twice player of the year” “given everything for each other out on that pitch!” “Never forget and will cherish forever” “important that fans stick together and support the team”. Anybody that regularly issues press or marketing releases knows that these NEVER sound negative because they are professionally written to have the opposite effect. These same people will realise that the nuance is in what the statement doesn’t say and in the way things have been phrased. There is absolutely nothing in that statement that couldn’t have been written if Monk had told him he wasn’t playing for being a bad influence in the changing rooms or for not playing with a slight niggle etc. My opinion, is that based on Westwood’s situation, if he wasn’t being picked for purely football reasons, why would he not say that? He doesn’t say that which leads me to believe that he isn’t being picked for another reason. He also doesn’t say things like I continue to give my all in training, I continue to support Dawson and Wildsmith, I continue to be available for selection etc. Which when the statement is clearly made for PR reasons and is clearly made to defend himself - seems strange.... That is my opinion (or best guess) but I clearly hold few of the facts. Is that a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Why not? Because i'm not that gullible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, 2roland2 said: that’s a big assumption yet again though. Made for pr reasons? If I was being sceptical I would argue him doing this if he’s done something wrong opens himself up to a war chest of backlash from fellow players staff and the club and fans. so for me if he had done something out of order I think he would just keep quiet. Why does it? He’s never said he hasn’t done anything wrong. Nor that he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HirstWhoScoredIt Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said: Is that a fact? I think it’s pretty clear that it’s an opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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