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1 hour ago, SiJ said:

Going off that, it seems like he was to move on in January? 

He never mentions January or indeed moving.  He cautions against listening to rumours then an experienced and somewhat respected poster as yourself goes and sows the seed of yet another rumour. 

 

Why not just give your opinion on the facts instead making stuff up?  

 

What's your motivation of spreading misinformation you know full well could go someway of causing further harm to the club? A club who you claim to support. 

 

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1 minute ago, 2roland2 said:


you want me to keep posting the same things. Monk made a decision to not play him he says he’s accepted it no falling out. 
so I will,ask you the same as others. Are you saying he’s telling lies? 
 

i negged you because your just asking the same thing over and over when we have highlighted what we said. 
 

 

Yeah, so you’ve highlighted that Monk made a decision and Westwood accepted it.

 

You stated that Westwood has given a clear explanation of why he’s not playing.

 

So again, please point out where that clear explanation is stated?

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5 minutes ago, Westfield Owl said:

Good statement.  Some of the ITK bullsh*t accusations against KW have been unfounded.

 

There’s a few posters on this forum that owe Westwood an apology IMO.


don’t hold your breath. They will still twist to make it fit their stance because there’s a dozen posters on here who can’t accept a change in what they believed. 
 

I have always said someone come out and say what happened, here we are, if he’s telling fibs then I wouldn’t want to be in his shoes with our owners stance of taking g things to court. 
 

not changed my stance on this if monk comes and says well westwood punched me in the nose or he refused to play then I will agree back monk. 
 

the problem you have here is people have dug in trenches with their stance and. NOw they will fight that to the bitter end 

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5 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

 

 

And yet you are saying it is now clear why Westwood isn’t playing.

 

when I’m no clearer than I was last night.

He's  not playing coz monk dont pick him you cant get clearer than that .....

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Is everyone actually missing the point in KWs statement?  Not sure he is posting it for the definitive inside story of what has gone on just to satisfy the thirst of Owlstalkers demanding "the truth".  I believe he has posted it to get some perspective in respect of the online abuse he is receiving from trolls and fans alike who think it is OK to do so.  He refers to recent tragic events, assume in relation to Caroline Flack, and is asking to be spared from such abuse which is not only unfair and unkind, but mentally damaging.  That is how i read it.

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2 minutes ago, 2roland2 said:


you want me to keep posting the same things. Monk made a decision to not play him he says he’s accepted it no falling out. 
so I will,ask you the same as others. Are you saying he’s telling lies? 
 

i negged you because your just asking the same thing over and over when we have highlighted what we said. 
 

No you really are not getting this.

 

We know that Monk has made the decision not to play him. We knew that way before this statement.

 

We are asking why Monk made this decision? You are saying that this statement makes it clear why Westwood isn’t playing.

 

We are all confused and wondering which bit you’ve seen that wasn’t on our version of the statement.

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Unless you’re highlighting that Monk makes the decisions on who plays... like that’s some kind of news.

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12 minutes ago, SiJ said:

Likewise, there is no one on this planet who rates Joey P above Hutchinson. 

 

And yet both of them are now training with the Under 23s. 

 

There is more at play here than different views on football. 

 

11 minutes ago, SiJ said:

Funnily enough, I want them all out. 

 

This kind of crap can't be allowed to continue. 

 

It is embarrassing. 

 

I agree with this. Our dirty laundry is being now washed (albeit half hidden) is the very public view.

 

It's poor professionalism on all sides. We are in free-fall on the pitch whilst all this plays out.

 

No one can be satisfied with Westwood's statement as it pretty much says I'm not playing; not making myself avaible for the bench, but we're cool.

 

The fans aren't cool not even tepid. It's a shambles.

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8 minutes ago, HirstWhoScoredIt said:

No my point is that he doesn’t tell us why he isn’t in the team.

 

Aside from knowing that they had a conversation and didn’t fall out about said conversation we have no idea at all.

 

Monk could’ve told him he thinks Dawson is a better keeper, that he doesn’t like Westwood’s attitude, that he thinks Westwood is a bit smelly. It could literally have been anything.

 

And yet you are saying it is now clear why Westwood isn’t playing.

 

when I’m no clearer than I was last night.


but what you and many others have done for a long time is blame him and hutch for upsetting the harmony and falling out with monk. 
 

It might be that he can’t or doesn’t want to train 5 days a week because of his injury problems. And that might be the reason. Who knows but he’s saying there no matter what the reason is there isn’t a fall out and he’s accepted monks decision. 
 

now the only reason to pull it apart is if you or others think he’s bullshitting 

 

if he is bullshitting then my god he’s opened up a can of worms because as I keep saying our owner isn’t one to not fight 

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4 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

He never mentions January or indeed moving.  He cautions against listening to rumours then an experienced and somewhat respected poster as yourself goes and sows the seed of yet another rumour. 

 

Why not just give your opinion on the facts instead making stuff up?  

 

What's your motivation of spreading misinformation you know full well could go someway of causing further harm to the club? A club who you claim to support. 

 

Pretty sure I do support us. 

 

Considering how many posts I have, it would be a bit odd (plus quite an effort) if I didn't. 

 

I'm not making things up. It was purely speculating on what Westwood had said. 

 

Sounded somewhat like a departure statement. 

 

For an Inspector, I thought you'd be able to tell the difference. 

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So the rumours about Westwood sh##ting in abdi’s boots are false ?????WTF:lol

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5 minutes ago, Inspector Lestrade said:

He never mentions January or indeed moving.  He cautions against listening to rumours then an experienced and somewhat respected poster as yourself goes and sows the seed of yet another rumour. 

 

Why not just give your opinion on the facts instead making stuff up?  

 

What's your motivation of spreading misinformation you know full well could go someway of causing further harm to the club? A club who you claim to support. 

 

 

ok - one question, why isn't our no1 fit keeper not on the bench fighting/waiting for his place back. Why is the U23 3rd choice keeper in front of him?

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3 minutes ago, 2roland2 said:

you want me to keep posting the same things. Monk made a decision to not play him he says he’s accepted it no falling out.

 

Mate, at no point in the statement did Westwood say that Monk made a decision to not play him. 

 

He says they had a conversation, and we're all none the wiser as to what that was.

 

It's why this thread will run and run, that statement from Westwood has left more questions than answers. 

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Just now, 2roland2 said:


but what you and many others have done for a long time is blame him and hutch for upsetting the harmony and falling out with monk. 
 

It might be that he can’t or doesn’t want to train 5 days a week because of his injury problems. And that might be the reason. Who knows but he’s saying there no matter what the reason is there isn’t a fall out and he’s accepted monks decision. 
 

now the only reason to pull it apart is if you or others think he’s bullshitting 

 

if he is bullshitting then my god he’s opened up a can of worms because as I keep saying our owner isn’t one to not fight 

 

What do you mean ‘who knows’. You’ve literally been posting that it’s been clearly explained and got mardy when people ask you to clarify. Now you’re saying you don’t know.

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Never playing for us again whilst Monk is still in charge.

 

That statement reads that he's accepted that he's not going to play for us again, but also comes across that not only he has accepted it, but possibly not bothered by the managers decision not to play him ever again.

 

Still think he's a better option than Dawson.

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But we don't even know whether making himself available for the bench is an option to Westwood.

 

If he's been told he'll no longer be considered for selection, then him saying in his statement that he's available for selection would also put pressure on Monk.

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Just now, Animis said:

 

ok - one question, why isn't our no1 fit keeper not on the bench fighting/waiting for his place back. Why is the U23 3rd choice keeper in front of him?

I don't know... Do you? 

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Stay well Kieren and good luck with your future club.

 

Some of us appreciated you mate.

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Goes to show how much poo drama the fan base can cause of a situation they actually don't know anything about.

 

Fair play to Westwood on trying to cull the gossip, although even based on that and being a contracted player people are already reading into it that he's gone.

 

He's simply not the no. 1 in Monk's plans, and given Dawson's shaky matches in the recent weeks, it's ludicrous that a manager will so categorically exclude a player from their plans. Westwood should've been given a run given the costly errors Dawson have been making.

 

I don't know how many other players Monk has said the same to, but based on our recent performances, maybe he should revise his flipping assessment and get a flipping handle on managing our squad. While they're under contract, they should be considered viable options when the others are so clearly failing to perform to anywhere near satisfactory standards.

 

Dawson, Lees, Pelupessy, Nuhiu, etc. should be benched simply to take a break from churning out more of the same drivel and maybe changing things around with the players we actually have at hand might turn things for the better.

 

Hell, I don't know, I'm no manager, but not using all the tools in your toolbox seems like an epic way of failing with this recent string of managers we've had to endure.

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