asteener1867 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Can someone with a laptop cut and paste Kivo's post from the other day? Yea but Kivos been angry since we wouldn't put the Club vicar in a wickerman wotsit at halftime under Grays tenure.............................. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrowbyOwl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Spondon Owl said: Unpopular opinion I know as I dont see the point in venting my spleen over someone who has ploughed money into the club and rightly has expected more from his money from his manager appointments. Do you think running a club is just a matter of ‘ploughing’ money in and appointing a manager? Nothing to to do with structure, planning, strategy, a good CEO, a good scouting setup, an effective Board? The things that all successful clubs have but our absentee dimwit has never put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, asteener1867 said: Yea but Kivos been angry since we wouldn't put the Club vicar in a wickerman wotsit at halftime under Grays tenure.............................. Reports are that he's out of his secular phase and he's praying night and day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Costello 77 said: Reports are that he's out of his secular phase and he's praying night and day.. Cos of Monk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Cos of Monk? Dunno.... he's taken a vow of silence.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, HarrowbyOwl said: Do you think running a club is just a matter of ‘ploughing’ money in and appointing a manager? Nothing to to do with structure, planning, strategy, a good CEO, a good scouting setup, an effective Board? The things that all successful clubs have but our absentee dimwit has never put in place I'm asking what hasn't he done. I'm wondering what the "structure" is currently and what you think it should be. Likewise scouting setup likewise board setup. Presumably you've judged our scouting setup poo because we have poo players? Is that the basis of estimate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Is Spondon a little known suburb of Bangkok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, Grandad said: Is Spondon a little known suburb of Bangkok? phuket!!...no idea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spondon Owl said: I'm asking what hasn't he done. I'm wondering what the "structure" is currently and what you think it should be. Likewise scouting setup likewise board setup. Presumably you've judged our scouting setup poo because we have poo players? Is that the basis of estimate? I would base that more on the fact that, unlike many other clubs, we never seem to sign players on the cheap with a significant resale value. That has hurt the club more than anything. Clubs can operate within the confines of P & S and still remain competitive as long as they get this aspect of the transfer policy right. We are one of the worst operating clubs from the perspective of net transfer surplus. £150 million or so down the crapper and still the lack of a coherent transfer policy hangs like a dirty, smelly fart around the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, Spondon Owl said: I'm asking what hasn't he done. I'm wondering what the "structure" is currently and what you think it should be. Likewise scouting setup likewise board setup Chansiri, pictured here with our extensive scouting network (please disregard gentleman front left) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: I would base that more on the fact that, unlike many other clubs, we never seem to sign players on the cheap with a significant resale value. That has hurt the club more than anything. Clubs can operate within the confines of P & S and still remain competitive as long as they get this aspect of the transfer policy right. We are one of the worst operating clubs from the perspective of net transfer surplus. £150 million or so down the crapper and still the lack of a coherent transfer policy hangs like a dirty, smelly fart around the club. Is that, singularly, the failure of a scouting network or perhaps the manager wanted players that came with a price tag? Is it really that black and white? I agree we dont appear to have a coherent vision of how we want to play and therein we dont have a supporting transfer policy but again.. is that not anything to do with the manager or shall we lay it all at chansiris feet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Grandad said: Chansiri, pictured here with our extensive scouting network (please disregard gentleman front left) What's was wolves scouting network when they got promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, Spondon Owl said: I'm asking what hasn't he done. I'm wondering what the "structure" is currently and what you think it should be. Likewise scouting setup likewise board setup. Presumably you've judged our scouting setup poo because we have poo players? Is that the basis of estimate? on what other basis could you make the conclusion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, asteener1867 said: on what other basis could you make the conclusion I wouldnt because I dont know who the hell makes decisions in the club on recruitment. I dont know how many scouts we have I dont know what on earth goes on behind closed doors. The only conclusion I would make is that, assuming the manager gets the final say, it isn't working. Because we're thoroughly poo . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, james o connor said: Hopefully offloading the club . I always knew from day one he would ruin the club , doesn’t make it any better now it’s actually happening . in other news , snap up your derby county tickets starting from £36 on the kop . Bargain ! Thanks chairman clueless The high prices have to be there though thats an offset, perhaps even and oversight of FFP, you have to raise income in order to spend, and fans are the income.. Tv money is a fixed amount each year more or less, a single club cannot influence that, commercially clubs can do a few things but ticket prices are always going to go up in order to be competitive Edited February 16, 2020 by keepitsteel89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Spondon Owl said: Is that, singularly, the failure of a scouting network or perhaps the manager wanted players that came with a price tag? Is it really that black and white? I agree we dont appear to have a coherent vision of how we want to play and therein we dont have a supporting transfer policy but again.. is that not anything to do with the manager or shall we lay it all at chansiris feet? It is a strategic issue that needs to be dealt with at boardroom level but obviously with the input of the manager/coach. It is medium to long term planning and requires a vision. Then it is about recruiting the right people to execute the policy. But it absolutely should be administered by the top executive who, in our club is Chansiri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Just now, Spondon Owl said: I wouldnt because I dont know who the hell makes decisions in the club on recruitment. I dont know how many scouts we have I dont know what on earth goes on behind closed doors. The only conclusion I would make is that, assuming the manager gets the final say, it isn't working. Because we're thoroughly poo . The manager has only had a say recently...he picked 3...Then dropped two of 'em on Saturday... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupremeOwl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, Spondon Owl said: What's was wolves scouting network when they got promoted? A world renowned super agent with global contacts to players far too good for this league. Yeah, just a bit different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spondon Owl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: The manager has only had a say recently...he picked 3...Then dropped two of 'em on Saturday... A man out of his depth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cognacbarnowl Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 18 hours ago, Morepork said: Anyone else read that name in a Barnsley accent?? 'ark, 'appen suckit wi' thi' nan on ?? Aye,I reckon that's the way they'd say it. Typical dingle chat, FFS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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