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Just now, s29wfc said:

Agreed, but they are still part of our squad so until we get them out we won't be getting the 9 or 10 players in , hasn't that been our downfall in recent seasons? Stockpiling players? 


of those 20 you have 

 

Liam shaw and Alex hunt , young lads who will play a part but in terms of wages are very small , urgohide also falls in to this category and potentially Penney  so ‘stockpiling’ was more when we had likes of Boyd . Jones etc who weren’t used and on big money 

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3 minutes ago, s29wfc said:

afraid I can't answer that one, this was the perfect opportunity to release the whole lot that were out of contract , start again as such.

Indeed, following every defeat it’s been, we need to clear the lot out, get rid, let Monk bring his own players in Since then we’ve offered, or are considering offering, new contracts to 7 of the 10 who were out of contract Are we supposed to believe that our dire performances were down to only 5 players, Hutchinson, Forestieri, and Winnal, players who hardly ever played

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6 minutes ago, BarnsleyOwl96 said:


of those 20 you have 

 

Liam shaw and Alex hunt , young lads who will play a part but in terms of wages are very small , urgohide also falls in to this category and potentially Penney  so ‘stockpiling’ was more when we had likes of Boyd . Jones etc who weren’t used and on big money 

Irrespective of how much money they're on, we still have 20 first team players currently that will start the season, 10 more and that squad then becomes too big again. We've had to sell our ground to get around ffp, you would think we would learn our lesson than to have a big bloated squad again, Leeds won the league by having a core of about 18 players so they proved you dont need a massive squad. 4 or 5 quality additions to go straight into the first 11 will suffice.

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2 minutes ago, s29wfc said:

Irrespective of how much money they're on, we still have 20 first team players currently that will start the season, 10 more and that squad then becomes too big again. We've had to sell our ground to get around ffp, you would think we would learn our lesson than to have a big bloated squad again, Leeds won the league by having a core of about 18 players so they proved you dont need a massive squad. 4 or 5 quality additions to go straight into the first 11 will suffice.

Leeds didn’t use that many players, but they still had a squad of 27 players In principle, I like the idea of a smaller squad, with the emphasis on quality, rather than quantity We could do this for example, if we assembled a competitive U23 squad, from which players could step up

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Just now, s29wfc said:

As I've just said, 20 players in our current squad,  Hardy half a squad 

How many looked on as regular dependable first team players ?

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3 minutes ago, jack whitham said:

How many looked on as regular dependable first team players ?

That's totally not my point,  they are in the first team squad and will be on good money no doubt.

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1 minute ago, s29wfc said:

Irrespective of how much money they're on, we still have 20 first team players currently that will start the season, 10 more and that squad then becomes too big again. We've had to sell our ground to get around ffp, you would think we would learn our lesson than to have a big bloated squad again, Leeds won the league by having a core of about 18 players so they proved you dont need a massive squad. 4 or 5 quality additions to go straight into the first 11 will suffice.

 

You’re saying 20 players but a few only have a handful of football league matches between them. 

 

They may well make the step up, but to me and I’d assume most they won’t be counted in that 20. Why not say the remainder of the under 23’s means we have a squad of 25-30 so we don’t need to buy anyone? 

 

Out of 20 aren’t 4 goalkeepers? One older one who’s now 3rd choice due to arguably the best and most experienced being frozen out.

 

To me that means 18 players then minus at least 3-4 youngsters who’ve not played 5 games. So a generous 15 players we have. 

 

This is the outfield squad we have excluding goalkeepers 

 

DEFENCE 

 

Liam Palmer (not good enough/squad player)

 

Joost Van Aken (not good enough but maybe chance after loan)

 

Osaze Urhoghide (young, 3 league games)

 

Moses Odubajo (not good enough/backup)

 

Dominic Iorfa

 

Julien Borner

 

Tom lees (needs a fresh start)

 

MIDFIELD 

 

Barry Bannan

 

Kadeem Harris

 

Joey Pelupessy (not good enough)

 

Adam Reach (shocking form for at least 1 season) 

 

Massimo Luongo 

 

Fisayo Dele-Bashiru (Not played first team football)

 

Alex Hunt (6 league games, most subs)

 

Liam Shaw (2 games for us, 4 at chesterfield)

 

Strikers 

 

Jordan Rhodes (I like him but shown to not be up to it for us)

 

Of course that’s my opinion on some players, but I think a lot of fans think the same. That list right there shows the monumental job we have just to be competitive in this division.

 

We need bodies through the door and lots of them. Both for the first team and under 23’s.

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4 minutes ago, s29wfc said:

That's totally not my point,  they are in the first team squad and will be on good money no doubt.

 

You just said irrespective of money in your lost before it. 

 

So does the money matter or not when qualifying players for the first team squad.

 

Osaze, Shaw and Hunt have 11 league games between them and half are subs appearances.

 

They may well play a part, but take those out the equation and 4 keepers. We have 13 outfield players and the majority ain’t very good.

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Just because the press and twitter are quiet doesn’t mean we won’t have spoken to players FFS

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We should sign Balotelli. 

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Just now, s29wfc said:

That's totally not my point,  they are in the first team squad and will be on good money no doubt.

That does not make them good enough.

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16 minutes ago, jonesy87shef said:

 

You just said irrespective of money in your lost before it. 

 

So does the money matter or not when qualifying players for the first team squad.

 

Osaze, Shaw and Hunt have 11 league games between them and half are subs appearances.

 

They may well play a part, but take those out the equation and 4 keepers. We have 13 outfield players and the majority ain’t very good.

 

Is it not 3 goal keepers now, I thought Paul Jones only extended his contract until the end of the extended season ?

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1 minute ago, Hookowl said:

 

Is it not 3 goal keepers now, I thought Paul Jones only extended his contract until the end of the extended season ?

 

I thought he was released, but checked and I don’t think it’s been updated.

 

I’m also going off the list that was posted on here a while ago and added the city lad.

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19 minutes ago, Bluesteel said:

Just because the press and twitter are quiet doesn’t mean we won’t have spoken to players FFS

 

100% this. We will be in talks with all sorts of players and would have been for months. 

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If anyone thinks we went through all this hassle with the EFL only to slip into League One next season with a bunch of untried kids and unfit loans then think again. We'll invest substantially.

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22 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said:

 

100% this. We will be in talks with all sorts of players and would have been for months. 

 

But will either miss out on them or sign them at the last minute 🙄

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Players will be in no rush to sign deals in the EFL this summer. Terms will be much lower this year and they will wait to see if clubs offer more as it gets closer to deadline.

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2 hours ago, jp1981 said:

If he turns up with his boots for pre-season, he might get a game.lol

Even tho hes not as good as what we have I'd be happy to see him play we need these characters back in this team all we have is a bunch of grey men. Excluding Forestieri first 2 seasons .

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51 minutes ago, Hitcat said:

If anyone thinks we went through all this hassle with the EFL only to slip into League One next season with a bunch of untried kids and unfit loans then think again. We'll invest substantially.

 

Great, lets hope we do it as sustainably as last time. :duntmatter:

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1 hour ago, flo said:

We should sign Balotelli. 

Imagine the scenes....tbf would love it 

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