jonesy87shef Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, s29wfc said: Irrespective of how much money they're on, we still have 20 first team players currently that will start the season, 10 more and that squad then becomes too big again. We've had to sell our ground to get around ffp, you would think we would learn our lesson than to have a big bloated squad again, Leeds won the league by having a core of about 18 players so they proved you dont need a massive squad. 4 or 5 quality additions to go straight into the first 11 will suffice. You’re saying 20 players but a few only have a handful of football league matches between them. They may well make the step up, but to me and I’d assume most they won’t be counted in that 20. Why not say the remainder of the under 23’s means we have a squad of 25-30 so we don’t need to buy anyone? Out of 20 aren’t 4 goalkeepers? One older one who’s now 3rd choice due to arguably the best and most experienced being frozen out. To me that means 18 players then minus at least 3-4 youngsters who’ve not played 5 games. So a generous 15 players we have. This is the outfield squad we have excluding goalkeepers DEFENCE Liam Palmer (not good enough/squad player) Joost Van Aken (not good enough but maybe chance after loan) Osaze Urhoghide (young, 3 league games) Moses Odubajo (not good enough/backup) Dominic Iorfa Julien Borner Tom lees (needs a fresh start) MIDFIELD Barry Bannan Kadeem Harris Joey Pelupessy (not good enough) Adam Reach (shocking form for at least 1 season) Massimo Luongo Fisayo Dele-Bashiru (Not played first team football) Alex Hunt (6 league games, most subs) Liam Shaw (2 games for us, 4 at chesterfield) Strikers Jordan Rhodes (I like him but shown to not be up to it for us) Of course that’s my opinion on some players, but I think a lot of fans think the same. That list right there shows the monumental job we have just to be competitive in this division. We need bodies through the door and lots of them. Both for the first team and under 23’s. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, s29wfc said: That's totally not my point, they are in the first team squad and will be on good money no doubt. You just said irrespective of money in your lost before it. So does the money matter or not when qualifying players for the first team squad. Osaze, Shaw and Hunt have 11 league games between them and half are subs appearances. They may well play a part, but take those out the equation and 4 keepers. We have 13 outfield players and the majority ain’t very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just because the press and twitter are quiet doesn’t mean we won’t have spoken to players FFS 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flo Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 We should sign Balotelli. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT jack whitham Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Just now, s29wfc said: That's totally not my point, they are in the first team squad and will be on good money no doubt. That does not make them good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, jonesy87shef said: You just said irrespective of money in your lost before it. So does the money matter or not when qualifying players for the first team squad. Osaze, Shaw and Hunt have 11 league games between them and half are subs appearances. They may well play a part, but take those out the equation and 4 keepers. We have 13 outfield players and the majority ain’t very good. Is it not 3 goal keepers now, I thought Paul Jones only extended his contract until the end of the extended season ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonesy87shef Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Hookowl said: Is it not 3 goal keepers now, I thought Paul Jones only extended his contract until the end of the extended season ? I thought he was released, but checked and I don’t think it’s been updated. I’m also going off the list that was posted on here a while ago and added the city lad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, Bluesteel said: Just because the press and twitter are quiet doesn’t mean we won’t have spoken to players FFS 100% this. We will be in talks with all sorts of players and would have been for months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 If anyone thinks we went through all this hassle with the EFL only to slip into League One next season with a bunch of untried kids and unfit loans then think again. We'll invest substantially. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 22 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: 100% this. We will be in talks with all sorts of players and would have been for months. But will either miss out on them or sign them at the last minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulture_squadron Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Players will be in no rush to sign deals in the EFL this summer. Terms will be much lower this year and they will wait to see if clubs offer more as it gets closer to deadline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stocksyuto Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 2 hours ago, jp1981 said: If he turns up with his boots for pre-season, he might get a game. Even tho hes not as good as what we have I'd be happy to see him play we need these characters back in this team all we have is a bunch of grey men. Excluding Forestieri first 2 seasons . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 51 minutes ago, Hitcat said: If anyone thinks we went through all this hassle with the EFL only to slip into League One next season with a bunch of untried kids and unfit loans then think again. We'll invest substantially. Great, lets hope we do it as sustainably as last time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckhurstOwl Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, flo said: We should sign Balotelli. Imagine the scenes....tbf would love it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, TheEnchanter said: Great, lets hope we do it as sustainably as last time. Wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 (edited) Was pondering our transfer policies drinking my coffee at first break the other day When it struck me prior to Steve Bruce coming in Dc was being lead by arfur Daley. We basically buying used cars (signing player's) from a dodgy backstreet salesman (paxo n Co). Who's owners (clubs) new they were about done. Then when they wouldn't start or run so finding out they were knackered parking them up (having to wait till contracts run out) becouse they had no re-sale value (ready for the scrapyard) Edited August 6, 2020 by shezzas left peg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 On 05/08/2020 at 09:14, Plonk said: Well Monk was saying last week he didn’t know if KL and Atdhe were coming or going. They are surely the two easiest deals to do. It worried me then. We are now at least a week on and still nothing. If we've offered them both vastly reduced deals and said that's it take it or leave it... Go away and have a think about it. Then it's understandable, though I can't see our lot being that clear cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 5 hours ago, vulture_squadron said: Players will be in no rush to sign deals in the EFL this summer. Terms will be much lower this year and they will wait to see if clubs offer more as it gets closer to deadline. Unless they decide there's a chance there will be another lockdown and clubs will be forced to close. If that is the case they might want the comfort of a 2 or 3 year contract signed as soon as possible. With no gate receipts wages will be down. Take what you can get, it's possible L1 ans L2 won't even have a season this time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulture_squadron Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, prowl said: Unless they decide there's a chance there will be another lockdown and clubs will be forced to close. If that is the case they might want the comfort of a 2 or 3 year contract signed as soon as possible. With no gate receipts wages will be down. Take what you can get, it's possible L1 ans L2 won't even have a season this time round. Yeah that's a really good point. Still think there's a bit more waiting to be done though. A surge in cases and talk of another lockdown would probably set the ball rolling but might already be too late. Now the league members are decided you'd expect the initial contract offers are on the table and the agents are hustling. Players will come back off holiday next week or week after and we'll probably start to see some movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sMacLean Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Expecting big investment. Season after next we can be a real force again. Time to get the side bedded in. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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