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Forest turn down a bid for Matty Cash from the pigs for 10m

 

Looks like a bidding war is starting so another championship team will get a pot of gold to spend

 

Even without the minus 12 points we can’t compete with this. We just don’t have the assets to sell to enable us to buy new players 

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6 minutes ago, yeadonowl said:

Forest turn down a bid for Matty Cash from the pigs for 10m

 

Looks like a bidding war is starting so another championship team will get a pot of gold to spend

 

Even without the minus 12 points we can’t compete with this. We just don’t have the assets to sell to enable us to buy new players 


This is why we need to be looking at unproven League one/League two and Academy prospects!

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20 minutes ago, yeadonowl said:

Forest turn down a bid for Matty Cash from the pigs for 10m

 

Looks like a bidding war is starting so another championship team will get a pot of gold to spend

 

Even without the minus 12 points we can’t compete with this. We just don’t have the assets to sell to enable us to buy new players 


If the wage cap comes in this close season then restrictions on losses may be a thing of the past. The impact on transfer fees is unclear but in theory if DC had money and was willing he could buy players but the wages would be under the 18m a season barrier.

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42 minutes ago, Bluesteel said:


If the wage cap comes in this close season then restrictions on losses may be a thing of the past. The impact on transfer fees is unclear but in theory if DC had money and was willing he could buy players but the wages would be under the 18m a season barrier.


Unless you can do something like that, with a wage cap, with an expenditure limit then you can’t call it Fair Play. 
 

it’s like saying to usain bolt, you won last time so start half way down the track. It’s not fair. 
 

only with the failure (Parachute)  payment it’s even more distorted. 

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1 hour ago, Royal_D said:

Matty Cash Premier League quality ? 

Yeah I've got a few forest supporting mates say he is. It seems he drags them through games when they are playing sh*t and is pretty switched on tactically now. A good signing for a lower half prem team which united will inevitably be next year 

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1 hour ago, Royal_D said:

Matty Cash Premier League quality ? 

 

How many of the blunts squad are Premier quality.

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46 minutes ago, mogbad said:

 

How many of the blunts squad are Premier quality.

What does Premier League quality actually mean? 

 

Is Fernando Forestieri Premier League quality? Barry Bannan, Kieran Lee.??

 

Are you Premier League quality if you play a certain number of games there? Score some goals? Win a medal? 

 

Seriously though we always see this phrase alot but what is a Premier League quality player??

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10 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

What does Premier League quality actually mean? 

Seriously though we always see this phrase alot but what is a Premier League quality player??

Someone good enough for the Premier League?😂

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54 minutes ago, mogbad said:

 

How many of the blunts squad are Premier quality.

 

Exactly, individually very few, collectively all of them. I won't judge any player in isolation, its all about making a cohesive team.

 

Blades, probably one of the best ever examples of that. 

 

I don't recall ever seeing anything quite like it. Clearly shows the importance of "team" over individuals. Also, bangs home how critical "character' is in modern sport. 

 

Switched on gaffer working to a plan, ability to motivate, literally every player "overachieving".........I can't bring myself to heap any more praise on the manager but his credentials are now unquestionable. 

 

Just off to gargle some bleach........ lol

 

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1 minute ago, Lucas Joao's Tooth said:

Someone good enough for the Premier League?😂

Great. I can go to bed now, that was just the answer I was looking for.

lol

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2 minutes ago, Morepork said:

 

Exactly, individually very few, collectively all of them. I won't judge any player in isolation, its all about making a cohesive team.

 

Blades, probably one of the best ever examples of that. 

 

I don't recall ever seeing anything quite like it. Clearly shows the importance of "team" over individuals. Also, bangs home how critical "character' is in modern sport. 

 

Switched on gaffer working to a plan, ability to motivate, literally every player "overachieving".........I can't bring myself to heap any more praise on the manager but his credentials are now unquestionable. 

 

Just off to gargle some bleach........ lol

 

Individually. How many do we have then?

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25 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

Individually. How many do we have then?

 

I'd be hard pressed to make you a list of players in our squad good enough for the division we're in........ lol

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25 minutes ago, Morepork said:

 

I'd be hard pressed to make you a list of players in our squad good enough for the division we're in........ lol

I wasn't trying to catch you out or anything. Just wondering what defines Premier League quality.  Is it all entirely opinion based?

 

I was just thinking about what you said Individually very few but collectively all. 

 Does that mean it's all down to managers like Wilder and Bielsa for the wonders they do. 

 

Take Kalvin Phillips. Before Bielsa, not a chance at being premier league quality. Now it's hard to argue against it. But is that all down to Bielsa or did Phillip's individually posses the premier league quality and Bielsa just got it out of him like you are pretty much saying Wilder has done. 

If this is the case could they take any player from league two and turn them into a premier league quality footballer straight away or do they have to have some sort of individual talent in the first place. 

 

Or is all you need to be premier league quality just a first class attitude, work rate and manager.

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I really like the direction recruitment appears to be heading. Long been an advocate for this type of youth signings and loans.

 

Another, all be it small market to look at is those very highly rated youngsters that have faded into obscurity.

 

Just chucking a name out there for fun. Ryan Gauld, left Dundee for sporting at a young age. Now plays for Farnese who just got promoted to the Portuguese first division. 24 years of age. Transfermarket has him down as 8 goals + 3 assists in 21 games. Goal ever 230 minutes from midfield. 

 

Obviously not a very high standard, but won’t cost much and was very highly rated at one point. Seems to have got his career on track and we make need to tahe gambles.

 

Oliver Burke heading back to West Brom after what sounds like a decent spell st Alaves. Might be beyond us even for a loan, but an interesting player that I think we were linked with In the last. 

Anyone think of any other players who fit this mound?

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12 minutes ago, pazowl55 said:

I wasn't trying to catch you out or anything. Just wondering what defines Premier League quality.  Is it all entirely opinion based?

 

I was just thinking about what you said Individually very few but collectively all. 

 Does that mean it's all down to managers like Wilder and Bielsa for the wonders they do. 

 

Take Kalvin Phillips. Before Bielsa, not a chance at being premier league quality. Now it's hard to argue against it. But is that all down to Bielsa or did Phillip's individually posses the premier league quality and Bielsa just got it out of him like you are pretty much saying Wilder has done. 

If this is the case could they take any player from league two and turn them into a premier league quality footballer straight away or do they have to have some sort of individual talent in the first place. 

 

Or is all you need to be premier league quality just a first class attitude, work rate and manager.

 

A few seasons ago I was off the opinion that Lee was Premier League quality, many favorable attributes and got better with more quality around him. Unfortunately, we'll never know.......

 

The Blades are to some degree an anomaly IMO. In the main, they achieve their quality collectively which you can only imagine must be very satisfying for Wilder. Through work-rate, organisation, togetherness, mental fortitude and of course tactical astuteness they elevate to the point of overachievement. Sure, they have a few individuals who are good enough to play elsewhere but the power is the "collective". I think we'll see this borne out in the off season. Any team of their stature finishing the season in their position would expect to see their players leaving for "bigger" clubs, I don't see that happening because its "collective" Premier Quality which is being extracted by a combination of the manager and their mental attributes. The ultimate test of their mental strength will be next season after the success this year. If that's missing, their "true quality" will be evident.

 

Leeds, we'll have to wait and see. No question of Bielsa's pedigree and they look a tidy outfit but you'd want to asses them after a season in the top flight. It sounds like they are ambitious so it's not yet clear how much their team will change.

 

I think your last line is most pertinent, certainly for us. 

 

It has to start with mentality, without it nothing else matters. We don't and never have needed to break the bank to put a good manager in place and then sign players with the work-rate and endeavor to achieve that collective quality. 

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5 hours ago, jonesy87shef said:

I really like the direction recruitment appears to be heading. Long been an advocate for this type of youth signings and loans.

 

Another, all be it small market to look at is those very highly rated youngsters that have faded into obscurity.

 

Just chucking a name out there for fun. Ryan Gauld, left Dundee for sporting at a young age. Now plays for Farnese who just got promoted to the Portuguese first division. 24 years of age. Transfermarket has him down as 8 goals + 3 assists in 21 games. Goal ever 230 minutes from midfield. 

 

Obviously not a very high standard, but won’t cost much and was very highly rated at one point. Seems to have got his career on track and we make need to tahe gambles.

 

Oliver Burke heading back to West Brom after what sounds like a decent spell st Alaves. Might be beyond us even for a loan, but an interesting player that I think we were linked with In the last. 

Anyone think of any other players who fit this mound?


Ryan Gauld has huge amounts of ability but he had a spell on loan at Hibs recently and he looked well off the pace. I’d be wary because he’s now of an age where he should be ready to play every week

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9 hours ago, Royal_D said:

Matty Cash Premier League quality ? 


Weren’t AC Milan after him earlier this season? There’s that other guy from Wigan who had a deal with Milan fall through because of an injury - Antonee Robinson.

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